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2019-20 /r/CollegeBasketball Predicts: The Big 12 [Results]

Earlier this week, we asked you what would happen in the Big 12 during the 2019-20 season. Now let's argue about the results.

Predicted Finish

10 points were awarded for a 1st place vote, 9 points for 2nd place, etc.
  1. Kansas Kansas
  2. Texas Tech Texas Tech
  3. Baylor Baylor
  4. Iowa State Iowa State
  5. West Virginia West Virginia
  6. Texas Texas
  7. Oklahoma Oklahoma
  8. Kansas State Kansas State
  9. TCU TCU
  10. Oklahoma State Oklahoma State
The Jayhawks' historic streak came to an end last season but they're poised to start another one this season. They easily carried the vote here, with a rebuilt Texas Tech sitting in second place and Baylor in third. Things got jumbled after there as narrow margins separated the rest, including TCU edging out Oklahoma State by 11 points worth of votes to avoid the basement.
PS: Someone tried to stuff the ballot box for TCU. Nice try. Also, I hate you.

Player of the Year

  1. Kansas Devon Dotson
  2. Kansas Udoka Azubuike
  3. West Virginia Derek Culver
Dotson edged out his teammate by exactly one vote. Together the two Jayhawks combined to receive more than half of all votes.
On the next tier, Derek Culver led the way but he was much much closer to 4th place than to 2nd. Texas Tech's Chris Clarke, Davide Moretti, and Jahmi'us Ramsey all checked in with healthy vote totals along with Iowa State's Tyrese Halliburton and Baylor's Tristan Clark. Oklahoma State's Lindy Waters got the most write-in love.

Most Surprising Team

  1. West Virginia West Virginia
  2. Oklahoma State Oklahoma State
  3. Baylor Baylor
A year after a Murphy's Law season, the Mountaineers were a popular pick to surprise some people in 2019-20. With a totally revamped roster that includes highly touted recruit Oscar Tshiebwe, they seem like a good bet to build on their late momentum from last year. Oklahoma State was picked to finish last but also second here which is a testament to how tight the Big 12 figures to be in spots 3-10.

Most Disappointing Team

  1. Texas Texas
  2. Kansas State Kansas State
  3. Texas Tech Texas Tech
Texas was picked as the most disappointing team which is surprising because is anyone hyping Texas? Kansas State is definitely due for a step back following an extremely strong three year run. And Texas Tech quickly rose from afterthought to elite under Chris Beard. Can they survive another offseason of big roster turnover?

Spicy Takes

A collection of some of our favorite takes we got...
Username Take
Horseracingguy Kansas State really hangs their hat on defense this year. While the offense will be garbage, the defense will be elite enough for a solid 6th place finish and a 9 seed.
DaMantis Mike Boynton doesn't get Cade Cunningham but does win Big 12 CotY
Royalmagiswag The conference yet again completes to double circle of suck
WMMRT Shaka Smart gets fired
ethan_bruhhh Texas will barely make the tournament and give Shaka Smart a 10 year extension for progress
CHSLAX15 The Big12 refuses to change with K State as repeat conference champs
(Anonymous) Texas Tech will end the season unranked
leverich1991 3 NIT champs in 4 years for the Big 12 as Oklahoma wins it
NVasilias NCAA doesn’t do shit
purpleprodigy_ The winner of the conference goes 12-6 in league play
reedhubbert88 Kansas wins the Big 12 regular season championship but a team seeded 6-10 wins the Big 12 tournament and steals a bid
Irishball Baylor lags eggs all season and misses the tournament despite preseason hype
Stoutcashew0928 David’s Moretti repeats 50/40/90 average stat line
Next week... The Pac-12.
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[Stakzz] Mock Draft 2.0 W/ Team Analysis

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This is all opinionated and should be taken with a grain of salt. I am a member of Operation Sports Forum and for my community work I have received free/early releases from 2K Games. I will not be making anymore rosters nor draft classes this year per my current agreement w/ 2K sports. June and July are almost here and I am getting hives from being less involved than my previous years. So i bring to you a very thought out Summary of what i would like to see draft night.
The NBA Draft is far from perfect, while I do like the new Lottery system that went into effect this year, I just do not believe it can be perfect until GM's start drafting on team needs rather than chase the best available.
Format: The top three teams will have more detailed information on their current rosters and why I believe they will draft such player. The first two paragraphs of every breakdown explains team & draftee needs, while the last two paragraphs express the strengths and weaknesses of those players. Next to each team i will note important players whos status effects how their team moves this July!
1. New Orleans - Zion Williamson (Anthony Davis) [22ppg 8rpg 2apg 68%FG 33%3PT] New Orleans best fit: David Griffin is going to need to start their rebuilding process as if Davis is already gone. Drafting in hopes of bringing a big name to New Orleans as in incitative to change Davis’s mind will only result in another GM losing their job. If i was David Griffin i would only have two choices on draft night: Draft the biggest name, or draft your future offensive leader. For this i would be looking at Williamson vs Morant. Of course the likelihood of being fired becomes greater if Griffin selects Morant over Williamson. If the pelicans decide to draft Williamson, their focus will be on acquiring the right assets to play with Williamson. Don’t worry, whoever drafts Williamson will have four years and 8 expected draft picks where they will be looking to add height and floor spacing bigs.
Williamson best fit: (A team with expandable shooters and length, A primary ball handler to help Williamson get to his spots) Williamson will be a great player. But due to his laundry list of weaknesses, Williamson needs to be treated as a centerpiece from day one. Williamson will need to be surrounded by 3-4 Shooters. I’d prefer 4 as I don’t see him developing a jump shot the way Boston Celtics Jayson Tatum did the summer before his rookie season. Playing Williamson at the 3 leaves a huge offensive disadvantage, while playing him at the 4 leaves a huge height disadvantage. Playing with a 4-5 like Anthony Davis will be tremendous for Williamson, but 7 foot shooters don’t grow on trees, so trying to find 4 shooters who can play with an undersized forward won’t be easy. Williamson developing an outside shot allows him to move to the 3 spot and add some height to the front court.
Pros: Highly anticipated recruit with an admirable on and off the court attitude. Williamson’s humility is part of the reasons why we believe he can be a great player. He looks as if he wants to learn while Coach K has complimented his ability to be coached. Averaging 2.1spg and an added 1.8 rejections, Williamson height will not be a liability in today’s small-ball NBA lineups. Williamson can jump as high as you can shoot. Weighing more than most boxing heavyweight champions, your only hope at beating Williamson at the rim is to get past him and even still Williamson has the lateral quickness and defensive IQ to anticipate lane attacks. This unique combination is something that we have never seen in this association. Williamsons body allows him to guard the top four positions in today's NBA. Elite defense coupled with his offensive skill-set: being able to put the ball on the floor, willingness to take outside shots, high motor, willingness to initiate contact rather than avoid it like his other draft constituents. Williamsons game and his early attitude towards the game is a desired mold for the perfect NBA player.
Cons: While I do believe in the Williamson ceiling debate, the current consensus in regards to his floor should be more concerning. Any avid stat-junkie knows that the NBA adds an inch. Maybe two. Player measurements are vital as often High School coaches boost their players heights on online stat sites for HS Hoops. I like to callout real measurements and want to express in no way am I 'Williamson biased'. At 6 foot 6, 280lbs Williamson's potential is as high as the level of activity his body can endure. Although Williamson will be a great player, GM’s can be fired for the players they pass up on draft night (including David Griffin if he chooses to not draft the all-american). Sam Bowie, Kwame Brown, Greg Oden, Anthony Bennett, and Lonzo Ball are prime examples why GM’s with top picks could be more conservative. I believe Williamson has the biggest bust factor comparable and maybe even worse than Sam Bowie. I’m not saying that there is Michael Jordan level talent stashed away somewhere in this draft, but considering Williamson is the most anticipated draftee since Lebron James… Williamson has big shoes to fill if he can prevent breaking through them. Compared to future All-Star Ben Simmons who did not shoot jumpshots at the collegiate level, Williamson also lacks a reliable jumper but has not been afraid to show that part of his game. As i stated, Williamson puts the ball on the ground, but his movement w/ the ball is one-sided. Nba defenders will abuse this weakness by giving a poor shooter room to shoot, while elite defenders like Kawhi & Jimmy Butler will play to Williamson’s inability to switch hands when handling the ball. While ball handling and a jumpshot can be taught, at his height and weight what worries me is his ability to play season after season, 82 games - 48 minutes. Without a serious conditioning program, Williamson will not play an 82 game rookie season. Williamson’s iconic “through the shoe” Injury was painful to watch. Not because the number one college player in the country looked to have suffered a lower-body muscle injury, but due to Williamson’s muscle mass. That same injury would have not happened to a player with a lesser muscle. Lebron James sometimes plays at the weight of 260lbs+ and yet I do not think that James would have missed time do to an injury of that nature. Any nba player would kill to have Williamsons natural athleticism. So quick off his feet at nearly 300lbs of pure muscle, while other players like Stephen Curry and Kevin Durant don’t need the extra muscle to be effective on the offensive end.
2. Memphis - Ja Morant (Mike Conley Chandler Parsons) [24ppg 5rpg 10apg 45%FG 36%3P] Memphis Best Fit: With Conley & Parsons accounting for nearly 45% of the Grizzlies player payroll and only scoring a combined 28ppg - 27% of the teams scoring - I am either smelling a trade or another GM vacancy. Conley becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2021 making a fully guaranteed $22,426,383 while Parsons is serving a 25% max bid ending after the 2020 season where he will make a fully guaranteed $25,102,511. We all thought the that Memphis could compete with their big three of Conley, Parsons and Gasol (all respectable pros) but with injuries and trades, Memphis will be looking to use their assets to start their rebuilding process. Mike Conley can be considered a “win-now” facilitator. His veteran status is more treasured to a contending team so look for a possible outing for the 11-year vet from Ohio State.
Ja Morant Best Fit: Morant will have success on any team that selects him. While for personal reasons i’d like to see him in New York - or any team that’s well into their rebuilding process - Morant will make family with the Grizzlies other younglings. Morant is a player who can give you the same attitude, the same level of production whether he is the best player on the team or a backup option. Morant will feed his teammates, It’s up to them to knock down the shot. Morant will need high-motor bigs like Montrezl Harrell, guys who catch lobs out of the pick and roll.
Pros: Morant has NBA-level Point guard skills. The type of skills guards struggle to develop during the development years coined the ‘rookie contract’. There is misconception that young passive players can grow into a high-motor. This is untrue. Guys like Russell Westbrook, Draymond Green, Pascal Siakam all have a unique high-motor level of play unforeseen and unlike any previous association players. While I don’t compare Westbrook to Morant as their skillsets are very different, Understand that you get what you get when it comes to a players hustle and motor. This is the NBA, everyone plays their motor to a 100%, some players are just working with bigger engines. Taking that into account, if you draft Morant, you are getting something unique you may not get from his 59 other constituents this draft. As far as skillset goes, Morant can play in multiple styles when it comes to a point guard's role. Morant can run the offense through his own scoring, and while he can play a passive facilitator role, Morant is at his best with a mixture of scoring and assisting. His ability to shoot, draws defenders closer to the perimeter. What we usually see from collegiate shooters when defenders close in on the perimeter, they tend to launch bad shots or pass out to a teammate. With Morant, his elite quickness and ball-handling allowed him to get by defenders all season long often leading to primary and secondary help defenders closing in resulting in a foul at the rim or an open jump shot off an assist. Morant’s willingness to attack the basket puts defenders in a guessing situation. Morant has not shown us any terribly exploitable kinks in his game so far.
Cons: Most of Morant’s points came from the foul line and inside the arc. If your name is not Kevin Durant, you can not ignore that the midrange is a bad shot to take. Morant will have to put on some muscle if he wants to continue attacking the basket against NBA level defenders. Morant has the attitude of a champion. Not a complement, due to Williamson being in this draft, he and Morant will be forever compared. So in comparing their attitudes, I wouldn't mind having a guy on my team with an attitude similar to Morant’s, it is clear he wants to win. Often times Morant displayed his frustration on the court with himself and his teammates. Players known for their unsavory attitudes like Kyrie Irving, Westbrook and Dray Green cause trouble in the locker room. Morant just like these NBA vets, needs to realize it’s not your job to discipline or ridicule teammates for taking bad shots. The coach will explain why the shot was a bad shot and what they can do to get to a higher percentage shot. Your job as a facilitator of the offense is to put your guys in positions where they already have a good chance to make it. For this reason, I would rather have humility in my locker room which is the attitude you get when drafting Williamson. Continuing… Murray State! I’m not knocking on Murray State, I loved the Isaiah Canaan years. One of the best shooters to play at the college level, But guys like Isaiah Canaan & Washington’s Markelle Fultz are clear indications of what happens when Point Guards play for teams with weaker regular season opponents. I believe Duke’s Barrett could still be a #1 or #2 overall pick if he had a team where the entire offensive scheme is run through him. So yes the team you play for does affect your play which in terms can boost your draft rating which is an overall assessment that ranks you among your constituents. If Morant is truly a 3-star recruit, his play at Murray State aligned him with the 5 star recruits of his class. Who is to say that this would be the case if he played for Arizona, Kentucky or North Carolina. By numbers Morant would be the consensus for the number one pick, but due to Williamsons potential, whether or not Morant is better or will be better does not matter. Williamson has showed his weaknesses, shown us that he can play against the highest level of competition, but as far as Morant, he will have to continue to prove that come July.
3. New York - RJ Barrett (DeAndre Jordan) [22ppg 7rpg 4apg 45%FG 30%3PT] NY Best Fit: NY currently has no identity. No style of play. By trading away Kristaps Porzingis, the Knicks avoided having to give out a max guaranteed rookie contract extension and in return they gained a $22m DeAndre Jordan who becomes an unrestricted free agent this July. Nearly 50% of the Knicks player payroll ($59M) is tied into dead cap from guys who they recieve zero production from, coupled with the expiring Jordan, the Knicks will retain more than $90m (65% of team salary). By obtaining a 2nd year Dennis Smith Jr. NY will have a better chance of attracting free agents this offseason and considering the future RFA Smith won’t be crossing off the checklist to a max extension in 2021, The knicks look to be in a very good financial situation If they can spend that $90M this offseason. The Knicks should be looking to draft in the 2,4 and 5 spots. The stars that they will need to turn around the franchise won’t be found in this draft. Draft the best available at those positions and hope that the FA you bring in can influence the draftees production.
RJ Barrett Best Fit: Towards the end of the season, we started to see that Barrett cannot be the best player on a stacked Duke team. This does not mean that he struggles playing with talent, but rather his talent is less effective when the offense is not being run through him. Similar to James Harden, Barrett’s game is his scoring ability, and when too much team responsibility is put on Barrett, he does not produce as efficiently as he does when he’s locked in scoring. For this reason, If Barrett does not step up as a facilitator or defender, you are going to want to surround him with selfless guards and bigs who can defend. I’d like to see Barrett in Memphis. Barrett won’t make his NY teammates any better, but going to a Memphis team with veterans, an identity and young guys who know their roles, Barrett could potentially make Memphis a plus .500 team.
Pros: The original consensus for #1 pick. GM’s are comfortable with drafting guys like Barrett. All GM’s understand where players are ranked with other teams so being able to get a higher rated player at a lower pick adds job security for Scott Perry even if Barrett is the worst of the top three. With above average quickness, Barrett has the length to defend. Similar to Harden who is considered a mediocre defender, Barrett will find success playing the passing lanes and switching onto NBA sized point guards. He has shown us his ability to score, leading Duke in ppg very early as a Freshman with very little added help from the three ball. While he does not possess the strength of a James Harden, I do see the potential to add some weight to his frame. Barrett is able to dribble and drive on both sides of his body, making him a more skilled attacker than his teammate Williamson. While Williamson relied on his athleticism, Barrett relies on his skillset. Being able to pull up off the dribble or drive with either hand Barrett has the tools to apply pressure on good defenders. Shooting as inefficient as Barrett did this season, to be able to have that level of point production marks his basketball IQ which may be higher than some of his “one-and-done” constituents.
Cons: As i stated Barrett is not a good defender at this stage. He has all the tools to be an elite defender, but lacks the attitude and discipline to get low and into guys space without fouling. This can change once he reaches the NBA which is less half court, less zone and more isolation play than the collegiate level. Even though Barrett shot just 2 of 6 from deep, If you sag off as a defender, he will shoot. So Barrett’s mediocre shooting should be overlooked as he has all the tools to be an elite shooter in today's association. Offensively Barrett only has his skillset and length at this moment. Although he possess above average speed and quickness, he is not considered to possess the elite athleticism that Morant & Williamson holds. Throughout the season when the defense took away his shot and his path to the basket, Barrett showed to be ineffective. When the defense removes all of your spots, you can either work harder to get to your spots or work harder to help your teammates get to their spot. When you have RJ Barrett talent understand that if you are struggling with your defender, your teammates may be struggling as well, so instead of focusing on making his next shot, Barrett needs to look to drive and kick, attract a help defender, feed the postman (no karl malone). Barrett has done this averaging 4.3 assists per contest, but on paper Barrett looks similar to Lonzo Ball who averaged 7.6 assists at UCLA while shooting less and more efficiently. I have no excuses for Guards who can’t shoot free throws. I won’t be acknowledging every player who struggled at the freebie line, but i find it miraculous how guys can feel comfortable pulling up from deep, but become a liability when they are shooting for free.
4. Los Angeles Lakers - Deandre Hunter
The Los Angeles Lakers have to win now. What better way than drafting an NCAA Tourney winner.The Lakers have three key points this offseason: Lebron James, trades and Lonzo Ball. Lebron James needs to win now, which to me foreshadows trades as I never believed the lakers could win even a participation trophy with the semi-pro roster they assembled. No one expected Ball to not live up to his hype (I did). While Ball has a high ceiling comparable to players who have led their teams to championships, he is not ready now and the Lakers could have drafted 58 other players including a Donovan Mitchell with the potential that they’d be ready to play with James now. So for this reason either Magic Johnson is fired or Ball is traded to salvage assets. If i was an NBA exec, and the Lakers were at the table, If Ball is not on the table then i'm not giving up any assets. For this reason LA is going to have to part ways with Ball or bet on drafting a guy who can make immediate improvement. Instead of trying to surround James with shooters, LA needs to look to fill out their roster and start getting rid of some guys who are hurting their chances of contending.
5. Cleveland - Cam Reddish
Cleveland can improve at the 2-5 spot with this pick. They aren't going to focus on Kevin Love, but rather continue to fill holes in their roster. Seeing as they won by drafting an underrated Colin Sexton in the previous draft, Cleveland should be drafting a two guard that can play alongside Sexton and Osman.
6. Phoenix - Darius Garland
Phoenix will look to improve at the 1. While they lack in talent at the forward spot, James Jones has four young forwards under rookie contracts. Bringing in a coach like Monty Williams who has had success with the young group in Philadelphia, the young phoenix forwards - ranging in age 20-22 - will have to develop so future draft picks can be used to fill out the bench spots.
7. Chicago - Kobi White Chicago should be looking to improve at the point guard position in lu of attracting free agents. Kris Dunn has not lived up to his potential which awarded him a draft spot over younger and better players. Chicago should avoid drafting a big with this pick. Chicago needs to shift its focus on Boogie Cousins. Chicago has the best chance at landing Cousins after his future departure with the Warriors
*8. Atlanta - Sekou Doumbouya *
The Atlanta Hawks feels as good as any losing team could feel right about now. Well other than New Orleans. While they don’t have a top pick in a more top-heavy draft than the previous, Atlanta made one of the best picks last draft. In Trae Young, Atlanta gambled and got a guy who showed more potential in one year than guys who were drafted ahead of him. While Atlanta needs more production at the rim, Alex Len looks to be stepping into a new role. For this reason i believe Atlanta should look to improve at the 3 spot with this pick and draft Texas bigman Jaxson Hayes with the 10th pick. Taurean Prince was a member of my favorite Baylor team with Isaiah Austin back in 2013 and since Prince has been solid but not great. Prince looks to be either just about to hit his ceiling or maybe peeking over which both concerns me as he never had high potential to begin with. From Trae Young to Omari Spellman, Travis Schlenk won the lottery with every pick he made last draft. Atlanta wants to continue the hot streak by not only drafting the best player available, but also drafting good players that tend to slip on teams draft boards.
9. Washington Jarrett Culver
At this point in the draft, your not going to get the elite point guards, but Washington can settle for a combo guard this draft. While they would be better off drafting a big or forward, Washington has to be looking past the John Wall era. Wall has been good for jersey sales, but back in 2016 Wall along with Grunfeld could not attract FA Kevin Durant who grew up close to the DC area. Drafting a combo guard gives Wall assurance that this is his franchise, while if they lose Wall or Beal in the next four years, at least they have the second best combo guard of the 2019 draft.
10. Atlanta (from Dallas) - Jaxson Hayes Not much to put here, Atlanta will be select 3-5 considering they need to give Huerter and Young room to develop. Considering bigs are not at the top of this top heavy draft, Atlanta will find more success with using this latter pick to select a big that no one would have taken as high as their first pick (#8)
11. Minnesota - Tyler Herro/ Brandon Clarke Scott Layden and the Minnesota staff has been some of the most patient losers. I’m sure the players aren’t happy, but Minnesota feels comfortable in the current position they're in with their young guys. Wiggins gets a $25M max. The same will happen with Karl Anthony-Towns come July when he signs his 5-year $158M rookie max extension. It’s hard to have a good attitude when your losing 4-5 years in a row, but when you are getting paid $100M to lose, that’s gotta be a pretty happy loss. So while Minnesota does not have the allure the a Los Angeles does, Wiggins and KAT should have no trouble attracting big name free agents. Layden will look to spend his #11 lottery ticket to improve at the 4 or the 1 position. Jeff Teague expressed his $20M option to run through 2020, So If Minnesota cashes in on a 4, they’ll can move Teague before the trade deadline. Teague will become the third highest paid player while being the 5th highest scoring Wolf this season.
*12. Charlotte - Romeo Langford *
Charlotte cant bet on Kemba Walker taking their money. At this point they should be looking at how they can help Malik Monk produce for them the way he did for Kentucky. Monk dropping 20+ points per game will be enough to attract free agents in the future. Charlotte will look to improve at the 1-3 with this pick. And at this stage the best guards available: Kevin Porter & Langford are both combo guards that lack strong PG skills.
13. Miami - PJ Washington
Miami is the one team in the lottery in which needs help at every position. Miami will be hoping Culver or Garland slips as they could use a PG, but if Miami is selecting the best player available, that won't be a PG. Miami has very little money as they built their team around expiring bigman Whiteside. Although Whiteside had a terrifying run offensively and defensively dominating the NBA, it came at the worse time. Future bigs are going to need to have perimeter skills to go along with their bully ball. For this reason i like Bol Bol coupled with Adebayo, but Miami will avoid drafting a 5 and instead look to develop Bam Adebayo into a floor stretching big. So expect a trade or Andy Elisburg filling out the roster by drafting in the 2-4 positions with this pick.
14. Boston - Rui Hachimura (from Sacramento via Philadelphia)
The Boston Celtics do not have needs that can be fulfilled with a #14 draft pick, unless there is another greek freak i haven’t heard about lurking around in this draft. The C’s are going to be looking to add an asset at any position. If the pick is not traded, expect for Boston to select the best available. While the C’s won’t lose both their primary facilitators, they will lose one come July and at this point in the draft any PG taken will be seen as a backup with maybe starter potential. For these reasons the best available will be Kevin Porter, although considering the current issues with the C’s team morale and Porter’s off and on the court issues, Danny Ainge for sure has Nassir Little & Rui Hachimura higher on his draft board.
Feel free to share your opinions here or at OS Forum. Mock Draft 2.0 Will include possible picks for the remainder of the first round, as well as players who i believe will slip on draft day.
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The GIF Final Four is Set! Vote for the GIFs you want to send to the championship match now!

We’re finally here: the GIF Final Four! Thank you to everyone who has voted so far, I couldn’t do this without you!

If you are unfamiliar with the GIF tournament, Here is the original post and here is the full tournament bracket.

Session 10 Wrap-Up

In what was, by far, the craziest GIF match yet, #1 I’m Beginning to Feel Like A Meme God and #7 Gonzaga Doesn’t Win the WCC needed overtime to determine which GIF would make the Final Four. Even in overtime, the match remained tight. AT 8:00 PM last night, shortly after a vote tied up the two GIFs for the tenth time, “Gonzaga doesn’t win the WCC” took a one vote lead, which it never relinquished. The final vote tally was 45 to 44, a margin of just 1.1%.
You can see the utter ridiculousness of the matchup here, displayed on a graph of votes over time. I know it’s just a GIF tournament vote, but seriously, this shit was wild. What’s even crazier is that both GIFs won their Sweet 16 matchups by a single vote, so really, any of the four regional semifinalists easily could’ve ended up in the Final Four.


Name Creator Release Date Source Material # of Upvotes Awards Seed (Overall Rank) Region
“Gonzaga doesn't win the WCC” u/yolman56 March 14th, 2019 The Spongebob Squarepants Movie 5,250 200 coins (2S) 7 (25th) 1
“Champions of the Caribbean: "The worst champion I've ever heard of."’ u/n3burgener April 11th, 2019 “Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl” 6,380 5,300 coins (1P, 6G, 5S) 5 (20th) 2
“Guardians of the Final Four -aka- The Line Up” u/Pugsandtacos April 3rd, 2019 Guardians of the Galaxy 20,800 1,100 coins (2G, 1S) 1 (2nd) 3
“Meanwhile, in the ACC” u/notshawnvaughn February 23rd, 2019 The Office (US) 15,300 3,400 coins (1P, 2G, 1S) 1 (3rd) 4


Name Round of 64 Result Round of 32 Result Sweet 16 Result Elite Eight Result Final Four Opponent
“Gonzaga doesn't win the WCC” 77% of the vote against #10 Beyond Scared Straight: SEC Edition 70% of the vote against #15 A monster, reignited 52% of the vote against #6 A New Challenger Arises 50% of the vote against #1 I’m beginning to feel like a meme god in regulation; 51% of the vote in overtime Champions of the Caribbean
“Champions of the Caribbean: "The worst champion I've ever heard of."” 100% of the vote against #12 I’m Being Shit On! 74% of the vote against #4 The Gang Broke KU 70% of the vote against #1 The Big 12 After The First Two Rounds of the NCAA Tournament 78% of the vote against #10 The Resistance Meeting Gonzaga doesn’t win the WCC
“Guardians of the Final Four -aka- The Line Up” 100% of the vote against #16 The current dynamic in the state of Kansas 77% of the vote against #8 How it feels to be part of the First Four 50% of the vote against #4 The Gif War and Big XII race heat up in regulation; 55% of the vote in overtime 71% of the vote against #2 St. Mary’s Got Hosed Meanwhile, in the ACC
“Meanwhile, in the ACC” 100% of the vote against #16 A bets a bet 77% of the vote against #8 UVA fans going on Reddit to celebrate 74% of the vote against #5 The Dagger 70% of the vote against #2 George has beef with the new AP poll Guardians of the Final Four
As usual, voting will be up for 47 hours. You must be signed into a google account to vote. Please watch all the GIFs before voting.


Final Four Fun Facts: Mostly for my own amusement, read it if you want. I will be using abbreviations for most of them.

-Two of the Final Four GIFs, “Champions of the Caribbean” (COTC) and “Meanwhile, in the ACC” (MITA), have yet to win a match by less than 70%. “Guardians of the Final Four” (GOFF) had one overtime mach, but won its other three matches by 70+%. Meanwhile, “Gonzaga doesn’t win the WCC” (GDWW) has had two consecutive one vote victories.
-One semifinal pairs two top-seeded GIFs against each other (GOFF and MITA), who were the #2 and #3 overall seeds, respectively. Meanwhile, the other semifinal pairs two lower seeded teams against each other, #5 COTC and #7 GDWW, who were ranked #20 and #25 overall, respectively.
-Despite getting less than half of the upvotes of GOFF and MITA, COTC got by far the most value in awards.
-Of the four users represented in the Final Four, only one of them (u/pugsandtacos) started the tournament with multiple GIFs. The other three users (u/notshawnvaughn, u/n3burgener, and u/yolman56), very impressively, saw their only tournament GIF make it all the way to the final four, meaning all three users are currently undefeated.
-Interestingly, all four GIFs were released at different times during the season. MITA was released during the regular season, GDWW was released during champ week, GOFF was released during the tournament, and COTC was released after the tournament ended.
-Virginia was depicted in three of the four GIFs; the only team to appear more than once. Auburn, Duke, Florida State, Gonzaga, Michigan State, North Carolina, Pepperdine, San Diego, St. Mary’s, Syracuse, and Texas Tech all showed up once.
-COTC and GDWW were unique in the tournament in terms of their respective source material. GOFF was one of two GIFs to use Guardians of the Galaxy as source material, while MITA was one of nine to use The Office.
-GDWW was the only GIF that made it from the GIFs I personally chose as my favorite GIF from each region in the original post, before the tournament began. The rest of my final four was “St. Mary’s Got Hosed”, which lost in the Elite Eight; “The Big 12 after the first 2 rounds of the NCAA Tournament”, which lost in the Sweet Sixteen, and “Old Woffer”, which lost in the Round of 32.
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[OC] Two Round Mock Draft with Pick Analysis: Draft Day Edition - (6/21/2018)

  1. Phoenix Suns DeAndre Ayton C Arizona
    • Phoenix selects local Big Man - DeAndre Ayton. In May, The Suns hired their new Head Coach - Igor Kokoskov. Kokoskov is familiar with Doncic, coaching him and the champion Slovenian team in the EuroBasket2017. However, Head Coaches usually don't have too much leverage in the draft and Suns owner, Robert Sarver, is a big Arizona Basketball booster, so the organization has ties to both top prospects. After his only draft workout, with the Suns, Ayton told the media "I know I'm going No. 1" - it appears exceedingly likely at this point that he is correct. Ayton has sky-high potential due to his size (7’1” height, 7’5” wingspan, 9’3” standing reach, broad shoulders) and athleticism. He has a good looking jumper considering his size and an effective Mid-range and post-up game. IQ and motor on defense as well as finishing through contact and polishing his Pick-and-Roll game on offense are big questions. Can he put it all together for the Suns?
  2. Sacramento Kings Luka Doncic SG/PG Real Madrid/Slovenia
    • Surprise! Vlade was pulling a ruse! There is a stigma when drafting European players. It mainly stems from public perception of the person making the selection. If one drafts a European prospect who busts, it is seen as more foolish because you may have missed out on an American prospect who was in your 'backyard' so to speak. However, Vlade Divac, GM of the Kings and former NBA player, was born in Serbia. I'm sure Vlade doesn't experience the stigma to the extent that others do, considering his background. Ultimately, the Kings can't resist taking Luka. The 19-year-old Slovenian excels in the pick-and-roll game on offense, great in transition (1.38 PPP), and is comfortable taking a vast array of jumpers -off ball screens (1.43 PPP) spot-ups, and pull-ups. He can be an effective team defender at times. Below average lateral quickness/vertical as well as inconsistent play are Doncic's main questions at this point in his career.
  3. Atlanta Hawks Jaren Jackson Jr. C/PF Michigan State
    • With Luka off the board, the Hawks take Advanced Stats Jr. out of Model Projection State. Jackson may be the safest pick in the draft. He has phenomenal defensive instincts, a decent outside jump shot, and as mentioned before - posted a great statistical season at MSU. One must keep his very small sample size (35GP, 21.8MPG) in mind when interpreting stats. With that in mind, Triple 'J' is a defensive monster, leading the Big Ten in BLK% at 14.3% and Defensive Rating at 86.4. Very balanced on offense, though he doesn't have the strongest post game. A high foul rate may be an issue. Look out for the Hawks to trade up and select Trae Young after this selection, possibly in the 10-13 range if Young falls that far.
  4. Memphis Grizzlies Marvin Bagley III PF Duke
    • MBIII falls to Memphis. Bagley is an athletic beast, great standing dunker, decent shooter, and underrated passer. A first-rate scorer on rim dives (1.43 PPP) - I see Bagley developing into a PF offensive role. Defense will be an issue, at least to begin with. Bagley only has a roughly 7'0" wingspan, and his defensive perimeter instincts aren't pretty. Memphis, like Sacramento, have struggled to get top prospects to work out for them and it's unclear what their relationship is with Bagley at this point. However, there seems to be some mutual interest between them and MPJ. Look out for Memphis to trade down and acquire Porter.
  5. Dallas Mavericks Mohamed Bamba C Texas
    • Dallas takes Texas Big Man Mo Bamba. Bamba has good size (7’ height, 15’ wingspan). His easiest-to-project trait is rim defending (13.0 BLK%). He is somewhat weak at traditional Center tasks (Setting screens, being physical, etc.). Appears to have improved his below average shooting mechanics over the offseason. It would be very interesting to see how Carlisle works with Bamba and DSJ. Could they be pieces of the next great Mavs team?
  6. Orlando Magic Wendell Carter Jr. PF/C Duke
    • The Magic add a Big with great measurements (wide shoulders, 6'10", 7'4.5" wingspan), a very smart player - Carter rarely found himself out of position defensively at Duke and offensively he is an able passer. He also can finish well at the rim (70% as a Blue Devil), stretch the floor (41% on limited attempts) and can put the ball on the floor if he needs to. If Orlando selects Carter, I think Magic fans can look forward to some great frontcourt play between him and Gordon (That is, before they let AG walk in FA).
  7. Chicago Bulls Michael Porter Jr. SF/PF Missouri
    • Porter's high-end potential may be too much to pass on for a franchise looking for a star wing. Michael Porter Jr. was seen as the #1 pick before the CBB season started - value! At this point, MPJ's biggest question mark isn't his on-court play, it's his health. Porter has a hip/back injury and he's currently at 50 90 50%. On the court, MPJ has a great looking shot for his size (6'10", 7' wingspan). His best usage in the NBA, in my opinion, will be at the PF/C position because of his lack of elite ball-handling, perimeter defense and upright (body stance) play.
  8. Cleveland Cavaliers Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG Kentucky
    • The Cavs select the 6’6" point guard from Kentucky. Great standing reach for a guard (8’8”). Not extraordinarily quick. Played a lot of pick-and-roll scenarios at Kentucky. Yet to prove he can hit from outside at a high rate. Lauded for his leadership qualities. Overall, lacks glaring weaknesses which makes him an attractive option for Cleveland and others. Will be a valuable selection if he earns starter minutes. This pick fits a positional need for a LeBron Cavalier team, but with a versatile player like SGA, they aren't tied to a particular rebuild path if LeBron migrates elsewhere.
  9. New York Knicks Kevin Knox SF/PF Kentucky
    • New York's future depends a fair amount on Porzingis's longterm health. With reports and speculation that the Latvian big may miss the entire season, that future seems marginally shaky. Selecting Knox is surely a bet on his development. He did not have an efficient Freshman season at Kentucky, but he has shown some nice shooting touch and has ideal size (6'9", 7' wingspan) for a modern 4. Knox is still very young (He will still be 18 years old when drafted) and may be able to develop into more of a 2-way player than he is now.
  10. Philadelphia 76ers Mikal Bridges SF/SG Villanova
    • Philadelphia will look to move some picks during the draft. If they keep this one, Mikal would be a virtual no-brainer. Bridges has familial (mother works in HR) and geographical (Villanova played its home games in the Wells Fargo Center) ties to Philly. The Sixers tack on a wing who is more experienced than anyone in this projected lotto. Mikal is a terrific spot-up player (1.34 PPP, 31% of OFF possessions). A versatile defender, appears to be able to guard most 2-4s at the next level.
  11. Charlotte Hornets Trae Young PG Oklahoma
    • The future of Kemba in Charlotte is unknown. There is a decent chance Kemba will be moved on draft night. With the Dwight Howard trade and possibly a Walker trade, the Hornets are looking for a speedy rebuild under new Head Coach James Borrego. Selecting Trae would be a flashy start to such a rebuild. Young has an elite shooting stroke, can pull up from anywhere, has shown the ability to find success on off-ball screen situations (1.39 PPP on a limited sample size). He finds open teammates well (48.5% AST%) and has shown a high comfort level in making a variety of different passes. He may be a defensive liability due to his lack of toughness, normal-human-like 6’3” wingspan, and overall disinterest in it. To be fair, a 37.1% Usage Rate is a valid excuse for some of his defensive short-comings. It will be interesting to see how Borrego incorporates Young into his system. As I mentioned beforehand, the Hawks are looking to move into this position in order to take Young, so he may be snatched from the Hornets or maybe the Hornets are the ones to make a deal with the Hawks - who knows.
  12. LA Clippers Collin Sexton PG Alabama
    • At 12, the Clippers select Collin Sexton. The Clippers have a large range of possible outcomes in '18-'19. They have question marks surrounding DeAndre Jordan - $24M player option, Montrezl Harrell - $1.7M club option, Avery Bradley - unrestricted free agent, Gallo and PBev - injury concerns. The Clippers have let it be known that they're considering moving up in the draft, possibly to take MPJ. If they don't, Collin may be a befitting selection. Sexton is a better passePick-and-roll player than he gets credit for. Can push the ball quickly on fastbreaks. Can handle a high usage rate. Great on-court body language. No glaring weaknesses - his shooting is suspect and he has tunnel vision at times. I’m a little worried his hair will morph into Elfrid Payton 2.0.
  13. LA Clippers Miles Bridges SF/PF Michigan State
    • At 13 the Clippers take an explosive player who can play off ball. Miles was a well-rounded player on offense for the Spartans. Able to score off of spot-ups, off of screens - off ball and on ball as a roll/pop man. Not afraid to dunk the ball when given the opening to do so. He’s a little undersized at the SB4 spot (6’6”, 6’9.5” wingspan). Miles Bridges has arguably more upside than his namesake, Mikal. Personally, I think 13 is tremendous value for Miles.
  14. Denver Nuggets Lonnie Walker SG Miami (FL)
    • Denver had an underwhelming defensive season to say the least - 25th in DRTG, and having a limited wing rotation looks to take someone who could potentially help in those areas. Walker is very quick, has a great frame (6’4”, 6’10 wingspan) and a good looking shot - capable of playing off ball. He has the ability to get his body in positions to score, but his touch needs work - he shot 59% at the rim in his Freshman year at Miami. If he can consistently hit from the outside - and therefore pose a threat to closing-out defenders, he has the first-step ability to murder those defenders on over-closeouts. Defensively he can guard on-ball fairly well. He'll need to learn how to be an effective team defender. Look out for the Nuggets to dump salary (which would likely entail a move down) tonight.
  15. Washington Wizards Robert Williams C/PF Texas A&M
    • Washington has no long-term options at Center. They may take a shot at Robert Williams with the 15th pick. There are some questions about Williams' attitude, so he should fit right in with Washington. Williams draws comparisons to DeAndre Jordan - a former Texas A&M Aggie. A prototypical rim-running big. 7-4 wingspan. Comfortable with finishing the rim (including full windmills in clutch-time on an NCAA Tournament game). Hack-a-Williams might be a thing at the next level - 47.1% last season at A&M. Never got to play much at the Center - where he’ll play in the NBA - in college, because of the more-polished Junior Tyler Davis taking those minutes. Prone to making dumb decisions on offense. While an overall solid defender, he sometimes lost trying to defend the perimeter.
  16. Phoenix Suns Zhaire Smith SF/SG Texas Tech
    • Phoenix should be looking for a versatile player who can contribute in a wide variety of line-ups - which is a very long-form way to spell Zhaire Smith. Smith had some underwhelming results at the combine. He’s 6’2.75” without shoes and got out-leaped by Donte DiVincenzo, though I wouldn’t look too far into that. He is a dynamic defensive player who can guard 1-3. On offense, he is an active screener a smart passer, He can lift off the ground in a hurry and excels at offensive put-back dunks.
  17. Milwaukee Bucks Jerome Robinson SG/PG Boston College
    • What the hell is happening with Jerome Robinson? I remember a time when Jerome was seen as a mid-second round pick. It appears scouts have just started to look into this guy and they like what they see apparently. Milwaukee takes fast-rising 21-year-old guard Jerome Robinson. A natural bucket-getter, the 6'6" Guard scored 20 PPG and shot 41% from 3 on 5.7 attempts in his Junior year at Boston College.
  18. San Antonio Spurs Troy Brown Jr. SF/SG Oregon
    • San Antonio's wing rotation is up in the air. There's Kawhi who appears to want out, Kyle Anderson - RFA, Danny Green $10M player option, Rudy Gay declined his $8.8M player option and is a UFA. They may want another option at that spot. TBJ is a player with smart passing vision (19.1 AST% in conference play), a good mid-range game, plus rebounder for his size, is a logical defender and was third in the Pac-12 in steals as a Freshman.
  19. Atlanta Hawks Aaron Holiday PG UCLA
    • If Atlanta doesn’t use this pick to move up and take Trae Young, they may select Aaron Holiday at 19. Aaron, brother of Justin and Jrue Holiday, is a 6’1 guard, with a 6’7.5” wingspan. He shot well in his Junior season at UCLA on high volume. He is also a great transition player and slasher.
  20. Minnesota Kevin Huerter SG Maryland
    • Tom Thibodeau and crew look for their next victim draft pick. Kevin is a young Sophomore (19.7), younger than Bamba and Ayton. He was expected by most to return to Maryland for his Junior year until his very impressive Combine showing solidified himself as a 1st round prospect. The 6’7” guard shot 41.7% from 3 on 5.5 attempts. He has a quick release and is always a threat anywhere behind the 3pt line. In addition to his great shooting strength, he is an able passer. Defense will likely never be a plus, but he hustles.
  21. Utah Jazz Donte DiVincenzo SG/PG Villanova
    • Utah struck gold with Mitchell last year. They add another combo guard in DiVincenzo. He is 6’4”, 205lb guard from Villanova, possessing a 6'6" wingspan. Relatively under the radar by most until scoring 31 in the National Championship game. Recorded a Connaughton-esque 42” vertical at the Combine. Shot 40% from deep on 5.3 Att./G. in his Sophomore year at Nova.
  22. Chicago Bulls Elie-Franck Okobo PG/SG Pau-Lacq-Orthez/France
    • Chicago takes Pau-Lacq-Orthez's Elie-Franck Okobo. Okobo can score in a variety of ways - able to pull up off the dribble and shoot off-ball - has the size (6-3, 6-8 wingspan) to potentially be a competent defender.
  23. Indiana Pacers De'Anthony Melton SG/PG USC
    • Indiana gave Cleveland a run-for-your-money Series in the first round. Kevin Pritchard looks pretty smart in the aftermath of the Paul George trade. The development of Oladipo, Sabonis, and Turner will be interesting to watch and they may take a combo guard like De'Anthony Melton to amalgamate with that grouping. Due to details released in the FBI investigation into various college basketball programs, Melton didn't play his sophomore year at USC. He's an incredibly smart defender who can defend 1-4 and hold his own as an offensive creator. His shooting remains a question.
  24. Portland Trailblazers Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech
    • Whether Portland has one or two of their star guards next year, they should consider drafting Okogie. As a Sophomore, the 6'4", 215lb. Okogie averaged 1.8 steals and 1.0 blocks at Georgia Tech. The 19-year-old Nigerian uses his 7ft. wingspan well on defense. Offensively, he could use some work in different facets of his game - ball handling, touch around the rim, etc., but his shooting stats (38% from 3 on 4.2 Att./G, 82% FT shooter) are promising.
  25. Los Angeles Lakers Mitchell Robinson C United States
    • LA could use a defensively-capable Center. Is Robinson that, or a failed project in waiting? Mitchell has a prototypical Center’s body - stands 7’1”, with a 9’3” standing reach. He is also a versatile shot blocker. An intriguing personality to say the least. Dropped out of Western Kentucky after committing to play there. Dropped out of the draft combine after supposedly receiving a draft promise.
  26. Philadelphia Dzanan Musa SG/SF KK Cedevita/Bosnia and Herzegovina
    • Philly selects the 6’9” Bosnian wing who, at 19, is already a positive contributor playing for Cedevita. Musa is a confident scorer, a great ball handler for his height, and an able distributor - However, his thin frame, below average wingspan, and defensive questions could be what holds him back from keeping a spot in the NBA.
  27. Boston Celtics Keita Bates-Diop SF/SG Ohio State
    • Boston is in a very positive situation. The addition of Jerome Bates-Diop, an older, easier to project rookie fits with their timeline. Balanced player on both sides of the floor. Keita Bates-Diop is a four-year forward from The Ohio State University. While in his redshirt Junior year there, he had great shooting efficiency at all 3 levels. Measured well at the combine: Nearly 6’9” in shoes, 7’3”+ wingspan. That size + high defensive IQ = defensive versatility.
  28. Golden State Warriors Grayson Allen SG Duke
    • Golden State wins their 3rd title in 4 years. With that said, it's apparent their roster has no obvious weaknesses. Well, now that I think of it, they could use a player that makes borderline dirty plays and is despised by most outside the fanbase of the team that he plays for. Having a back-up guard rotation of an aging Livingston, G-League star Cook, and injured McCaw GSW could also use a guard. Grayson Allen tested well athletically at the combine - 10.3s lane agility, 41 in. vertical. Grayson can contribute outside shooting and hustle* plays to the Warriors. The ability to hit shots consistently will make or break Allen’s NBA career. Despite his repetition, I like Allen and I think he would make a positive impact for the Warriors.
  29. Brooklyn Nets Chandler Hutchison SF/SG Boise State
    • The Nets hold their own first-round pick in the 2019 draft, the first time in four years. There's a rumor that Hutchison received a promise to be drafted at this spot. Hutchison is a 6'7" wing with a 7'1" wingspan. Hutchison lead the MWC in Defensive Rating (93.3) and PER (25.9). He is noted for his great work ethic.
  30. Atlanta Hawks Jalen Brunson PG Villanova
    • Is Schröder the Hawks long term PG? Almost certainly not. In fact, Dennis may not be on Atlanta's books by the time the draft reaches a conclusion. Atlanta takes another guard, this time, Jalen Brunson. ATL makes a safe pick in the AP POY Brunson. I would bet a small sum of money that TV analysts will use the “Crafty” when breaking down his tape after he is drafted. His size (6’2” height, 6’4” wingspan) and athleticism are his biggest, and nearly only, knocks. I can see him becoming a 5th man player on a good team, paired with a long, defensive guard in the backcourt.
  31. Phoenix Suns Melvin Frazier SF/SG Tulane
    • Phoenix selects a defensive minded G/F from Tulane. Tested well at the Combine: Nearly 7’2” wingspan, 40.5” vertical. Frazier has great hands of defense and led the AAC in steals last season (65) and FG% (55.6). He is a bit turnover prone on offense and is not a very capable shooter at this point in his career.
  32. Memphis Grizzlies Khyri Thomas SG Creighton
    • Memphis selects the gritty combo guard from Creighton. Thomas is an on-ball shutdown defender. While being projected as an archetypal 3&D off-ball guard, Thomas can distribute the ball fairly well.
  33. Atlanta Hawks Moritz Wagner PF/C Michigan
    • The Hawks select the German March Madness star, Moritz Wagner. Mo solidified his place in the draft with his postseason play. Elite Pick-and-roll/pop player. A good spot-up shooter, can extend to 3-pointers (39.4% on 4.1 Att./G). Poor FT% is concerning 69.4%. Below average defender, might get stuck between Center and Forward due to the inability to defend the perimeter and his lack of toughness/length.
  34. Dallas Mavericks Omari Spellman PF/C Villanova
    • Dallas takes NCAA Champion, Omari Spellman. Old for a Freshman; will be nearly 21 on draft day. Good frame - 6’9”, 245lb, 7’2” wingspan. Can stretch the floor on offense. Likes to spot up and plays well off it (1.41 PPP). Weaker on other big-man tasks - P&R, Post-ups, Put-backs, etc. Not very quick laterally on defense, but makes some vertical plays.
  35. Orlando Magic Jacob Evans SG Cincinnati
    • Orlando selects a big guard who uses his strength to defend the perimeter, is a capable passer, and can hit the 3 reliably (37.7% on 4.4 Att./G during his 3 years at Cincinnati). I'm a big fan of Evans and I think he has a shot to contribute to an NBA team.
  36. New York Knicks Jevon Carter PG West Virginia
    • The Knicks take a ball-handler-hounding guard, Jevon Carter. Carter regularly shut down opposing guards at WVU. He has a high motor and can find his teammates well on offense. I'm sure New York would love this guy.
  37. Sacramento Kings Bruce Brown Jr. SG/PG Miami (FL)
    • The Kings take a combo guard from Miami. Coming off a foot injury and taking a step back in 3pt% (34.7 on 2.9 Att. - 26.7 on 3.2 Att.) in his Sophomore year, Brown is still a coveted prospect due to his defensive prowess and explosiveness. Brown Jr. is an older Sophomore (21.8 at time of the draft). An explosive leaper, active on-ball defender, times blocks well, good shooter off the catch - very poor on pull-ups.
  38. Philadelphia 76ers Anfernee Simons SG/PG IMG Academy
    • Philadelphia selects a five-year highschool player and part-time Markelle Fultz impersonator, Anfernee Simons. Simons is a young (19.0 at draft) CG from IMG Academy. He’s 6’4”, 180lb., and has a 6’9” wingspan. He will need to get stronger, jumps forward significantly on 3s. Handles the ball well and sets himself up for mid-rangers nicely.
  39. Los Angeles Lakers Rodions Kurucs SF/PF FC Barcelona/Latvia
    • What is up with all the Latvian NBA prospects? Rodions got limited minutes with Barcelona last year, but the 20-year-old but regardless, he's a coveted 2nd round selection. He's a 6'10" forward with a 7-foot wingspan, good shooting mechanics, and decent athleticism.
  40. Brooklyn Nets Landry Shamet PG/SG Wichita State
    • Brooklyn takes a dynamic deep-range scorer at No. 40. Landry Shamet has a pretty shooting stroke and shot very well (44.2%) from three at a high volume (5.9 Att./G) in his redshirt Sophomore year at Wichita State. Surprisingly, measured a nearly 40 in. vertical at the Combine, though he was only so-so in scrimmage play.
  41. Orlando Magic Gary Trent Jr. SG Duke
    • Orlando selects Duke Freshman Gary Trent Jr. Gary Trent is 6'6", has a 6'9" wingspan, shot 40% from three and 87% from the line in his Freshman season at Duke. The Magic potentially add a shooting threat.
  42. Detroit Pistons Devonte' Graham PG Kansas
    • The Pistons have no first round pick due to the Blake Griffin trade. They recently hired former Raptors coach and COY candidate, Dwane Casey. The first rookie selected in the Casey era is Devonte' Graham. The Pistons could use some point guard depth and they'll get some immediately with Graham. The Big 12 POY is slightly undersized (6'2", 6’6” wingspan) and old (born 2/22/95), but he has shown many things teams want in a PG. He's a good shooter (40.6% on 6.9 Att./G) a solid distributor (2.8 Ast/Tov) and an active defender (1.6 Stl/G).
  43. Denver Nuggets Jarred Vanderbilt PF/SF Kentucky
    • The Nuggets could use some wing depth and they may get some with Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt excels in rebounding and passing. He hasn’t shown any sign of developing an outside shot.
  44. Washington Wizards Hamidou Diallo SG Kentucky
    • Washington has some roster decisions to make. After taking their hopeful Center-of-the-Future in Williams, they move on and select Diallo. “It’s f---ing raw!” - Gordon Ramsey sums up Hamidou’s game. Diallo didn't show much this year and he'll likely fall to the Second Round. He’s a good offensive transition player. Great athleticism and size (45in. vertical, 7ft wingspan) - and that’s why a team like the Wizards will draft him.
  45. Charlotte Hornets Shake Milton SG/PG SMU
    • The Hornets take Malik "Shake" Milton. Shake Milton is an oversized guard (6’6”, 6’11” wingspan) from SMU. He can shoot off the ball well (1.34 PPP, 1/3 of OFF possessions) and is a solid on-ball defender. He struggled at in combine play where his lack of athleticism was apparent.
  46. Houston Rockets Rawle Alkins SG Arizona
    • Houston takes Rawle Alkins. He has a great body profile. Wide shoulders, 6'9" wingspan. High motor athlete. Good shooting mechanics. Questionable decision-making on both sides of the floor. The Rockets add a powerful Guard in Alkins.
  47. Los Angeles Lakers Kevin Hervey SF/PF Texas-Arlington
    • The Lakers select a wing with excellent length - 6’8”, 7’3.5” wingspan. Young Senior - won’t even be 22 at the draft. Played four years for the University of Texas-Arlington in the Sun Belt Conference - not the best competition. Shot 33.9% from 3 on 6.9 Att./G, 80.7 FT%. Rebounds well on both sides of the ball. 27.8 Career USG% at UTA, will he be able to translate to a more refined role?
  48. Minnesota Timberwolves Trevon Duval PG Duke
    • Minnesota selects Trevon Duval. Duval’s stock has plummeted since High School. Still, he’s a good ISO ball handler. He can finish pretty well using his length (6'9" wingspan) with a variety of finishing shots. Overall poor decision maker and a poor 3pt shooter. He’s an athletically gifted player who a team like Minnesota may take for his potential.
  49. San Antonio Spurs Chimezie Metu PF/C USC
    • San Antonio selects Chimezie Metu. Metu is a 6’10” F/C with a 7’0.5” wingspan. Metu has a fairly good post game and has been working on his 3 point game. His mechanics are projectable as a player that you don’t want to leave absolutely wide open. Metu averaged 18 and 8 with 2 BPG per 36 minutes in his Junior year at USC.
  50. Indiana Pacers Isaac Bonga SF/PG Frankfurt Skyliners/Germany
    • The Pacers take a draft-and-stash point forward. Isaac Bonga is the second youngest players eligible to be drafted - 18.6 on draft date. Struggles from 3, not the greatest release. 90+ FT percentage is encouraging. Good passer.
  51. New Orleans Pacers Justin Jackson SF/PF Maryland
    • Only one pick for the Pelicans this year and it's at 51. New Orleans selects Justin Jackson. Jackson's stock dropped after a lost Sophomore season at Maryland. He was inefficient before ending his season due to injury. The Pelicans take a chance due to his potential upside (6’7”, 7’3” wingspan).
  52. Utah Jazz Issuf Sanon SG/PG Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk/Ukraine
    • The Jazz take Issuf Sanon - the youngest player in the draft. He's a 18.6-year-old Ukrainian guard. 6’4”,185lb. Not the most athletic guard in the class but can finish at the rim fairly well. Sanon can shoot with confidence both on/off the ball. Throws his feet forward a little on jump shots. Will need to get stronger.
  53. Oklahoma City Thunder Tony Carr PG Penn State
    • The Thunder take a guard from Penn State. The 6'5" Sophomore Point Guard has a slightly unconventional shooting execution, hopping forward and making a pushing motion high in the air. It has worked thus far. He killed the Big Ten last year averaging 20PPG on 43% 3-point shooting. Decent spot-up player. Should be able to play off ball.
  54. Dallas Mavericks Malik Newman SG/PG Kansas
    • Dallas takes Malik Newman. The redshirt Sophomore transferred from Mississippi State to Kansas after his Freshman year. A five-star recruit out of high school, Newman didn’t quite live up to the hype. However, he showed in flashes last year why he was ranked so highly. He can pull up from range and hit the 3-ball efficiently: 41% on 5.3 attempts this last year.
  55. Charlotte Hornets Kostas Antetokounmpo PF Dayton
    • Brother of Bucks star Forward Giannis, Kostas is one of four physically gifted basketball-playing brothers. Kostas is a 6’10 forward with a 7’2.25” wingspan and a 9’2.5” standing reach. The 20-year-old was largely unimpressive in his one year at Dayton, though he did post a notable 8.3 BLK%. Charlotte swings for the fences with this pick, hoping Kostas can become a versatile defender and improve in a Giannis-like trajectory.
  56. Philadelphia 76ers Brandon McCoy C UNLV
    • The 76ers take a shot on a project. Brandon McCoy is a 7’0” Freshman Center with a 7'2" wingspan. Played last season for UNLV. A bit stiff and lacks instincts, but can rebound and finish fairly well.
  57. Oklahoma City Thunder Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk SG Kansas
    • OKC takes Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk. Mykhailiuk is a 6’7” guard with a minus wingspan (6’5”) who shot 44.4% from 3 on 6.6 attempts in his Senior season at Kansas, and despite being a senior, he will have just turned 21 by the time the draft rolls around.
  58. Denver Nuggets Raymond Spalding C/PF Louisville
    • Ray Spalding is a Junior big man from Louisville. Spalding is 6’10” and possesses a 7’5” wingspan - which he uses fairly well to get blocks (6.3 BLK%) and steals (3.1 STL%). Spalding was also a capable offensive rebounder at Louisville (2nd in the ACC junior year) and can throw down dunks on the move. He doesn’t have much of an offensive game outside of that, however.
  59. Phoenix Suns Kenrich Williams SF TCU
    • Very smart player, also very old (23.6 on draft date). No glaring weaknesses, though not elite athlete, FT shooter. Rebounds well for position. A versatile player who should contribute positively right from the get-go.
  60. Philadelphia 76ers Arnoldas Kulboka SF Betaland Capo d’Orlanda/Lithuania
    • Kulboka is a 6’10” forward from Lithuania. The 20-year-old played 29 games for Betaland Capo d’Orlanda in Italy’s Lega A last year, shooting 36.7% from deep on 4.4 Att./G.. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is a consistent FT shooter. He will have to continue to gain strength and learn to be physical if he wants to make it in the NBA.

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Thanks for reading! Feel free to correct any mistakes. There are a ton of teams looking to trade up or down, so I can't wait to see how fast this mock becomes useless.
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[GAME THREAD] NIT SEMIFINAL: (1) Old Dominion vs (2) Stanford (9:00 PM ET)

2015 NIT Tournament Semifinals

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(2) Stanford Cardinal (22-13, 9-9 PAC-12)
(1) Old Dominion Monarchs (27-7, 13-5 Conference USA)
Tip-Off: 9:00 ET - 3/31/2015
Venue: Madison Square Garden New York, New York
Box Score 1st 2nd TOTAL
Stanford 33
Old Dominion 27
Series History: Stanford leads 1-0
Last Meeting: Stanford 84, Old Dominion 60 (Nov. 23, 2000 at San Juan, Puerto Rico)
Top Performers 1st Half
Stanford: A. Brown 11 Pts, 1 Ast, 1 Stl
Old Dominion: R. Ross 9 Pts, 3 Stl, 1 Blk
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"Old Dominion guard Trey Freeman is averaging a team-high 17.5 points per game on 45.6 percent shooting from the field." Freeman also banked a buzzer-beater 3-pointer against Murray State to send ODU to the semifinals.
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Top Performers (season average)
Team Points Rebounds Assists
Stanford C. Randle - 18.9 A. Brown - 7.0 C. Randle - 3.1
Old Dominion T. Freeman - 17.5 D. Taylor - 6 T. Freeman - 3.4
Stanford Cardinal Injuries
Player Position Injury Status
Schuyler Rimmer C Personal left team
Grant Verhoeven C Hip out indefinitely
Malcolm Allen G Wrist out indefinitely
Old Dominion Injuries
Line: -3.5 | OveUnder: 110
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/r/NBA 2017 Southwest Division Breakdown: San Antonio Spurs

Thanks to imeanyoloright and jaynay1, from whom I stole the bulk of this formatting.


Subreddit: /NBASpurs
Arena: AT&T Center
Attendance: 18,423 (13th)
Division: Southwest (Western Conference)
All-Time Record: 2067-1247 (62.3%)
Playoff Record: 218-173 (55.8%)
Head Coach: Gregg Popovich, 22nd Season, 1656-1150 (69.4%)
Associate Head Coach: Ettore Messina
Assistant Coaches: Will Hardy, James Borrego, Becky Hammon, Ime Udoka, Chip Engelland
Notable Departures: None (Finally the league stopped poaching our coaches smh)
GM: R.C. Buford
Owner: Peter Holt
2016-2017 TEAM
Player Pos PPG RPG APG Team State with Team
9 Tony Parker PG 10.1 1.8 4.5 Through 2017-18 (1yr / $15.5)
14 Danny Green SG 7.3 3.3 1.8 Through 2018-19 (2yr / $20.0, PO)
2 Kawhi Leonard SF 25.5 5.8 3.5 Through 2019-20 (3yr / $42.2, PO)
12 LaMarcus Aldridge PF 17.3 7.3 1.9 Through 2018-19 (2yr / $43.8, PO)
16 Pau Gasol C 12.4 7.8 2.3 Through 2019-20 (3yr / $48.0, PO)
20 Manu Ginobili SG 7.5 2.3 2.7 Through 2018-19 (2yr / $5.0)
8 Patty Mills PG 9.5 1.8 3.5 Through 2020-21 (4yr, $49.7)
10 David Lee PF 7.3 5.6 1.6 Unsigned FA (Injury?)
17 Jonathon Simmons SG 6.2 2.1 1.6 Signed with New York (3yr / $20.0)
3 Dewayne Dedmon C 5.1 6.5 0.6 Signed with Atlanta (2yr, $14.1. PO)
1 Kyle Anderson SF 3.4 2.9 1.3 Through 2017-18 (1yr / $3.2) // Rookie Contract
42 Davis Bertans PF 4.5 1.5 0.7 Through 2017-18 (1 yr, 1.3, RFA)
27 Nicolas Laprovittola PG 3.3 0.6 1.5 Cut Midseason
5 DeJounte Murray PG 3.4 1.1 1.3 Through 2019-20 (3 yr, $5.1, 2xTO) // Rookie Contract
11 Bryn Forbes SG 2.6 0.6 0.6 Through 2017-18 (1yr / $1.3, RFA)
30 Joel Anthony C 1.3 1.6 0.2 Training Camp invitation
Click # for Twitter // Table ordered by MPG // Starters in bold // Players leaving struck-out// Salaries in millions of dollars
ORtg DRtg Pace PPG PAPG Diff
111.1 103.5 94.2 105.3 98.1 7.2
9th 1st 27th 14th 2nd 2nd
SAS 105.3 .469 .391 .797 .524 43.9 23.8 8.0 5.9 13.4
Rank 14th 6th 1st 7th 10th 11th 7th 11th 2nd 10th
OPP 98.1 .443 .344 .771 .492 41.5 21.4 7.5 4.1 14.4
Rank 2nd 4th 5th 14th 2nd 5th 6th 14th 5th 12th
Stats gathered from BasketballReference.


61-21, #2 Seed in the West
Despite facing both a disappointing exit to the 2015-16 postseason and the loss of an NBA titan in Tim Duncan, expectations for the Spurs still stayed relatively high heading into the 2016-17 campaign. Kawhi Leonard had emerged as a bona fide MVP candidate and won his second straight Defensive Player of the Year award, and the team added an aging Pau Gasol to the fold to help offset the loss of the future Hall of Famer. On top of that the Spurs still had veteran stalwarts LaMarcus Aldridge, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili returning to the team, along with a bevy of support weapons such as Danny Green, Patty Mills and Kyle Anderson as well as the signing of intriguing bench pieces in former-all-star-turned-journeyman David Lee and a relatively unknown athletic big in Dewayne Dedmon. With this group of top end talent mixed with solid options off the bench playing under the disciplined gaze of Gregg Popovich, many in the media anticipated another successful campaign from the Silver and Black.
The Spurs certainly did not disappoint on opening night. Much to the delight of an NBA fanbase frothing at the mouth for Golden State to be humbled following their incredible offseason in which they added former MVP Kevin Durant, the Spurs delivered in a way that even the most homer San Antonio fans could not have envisioned, winning the day with a 129-100 trouncing of the previous year’s Western Conference Champions. The Spurs continued the season on a high note, winning their first four games and 14 of their first 17. As an exciting development on the season, Kawhi Leonard not only continued his stellar play from the 2015-16 season, but to the surprise of many, actually improved, evolving into a consistent and elite offensive threat.
With Kawhi’s newly discovered offensive prowess, he not only began dominating games, but he began to will the Spurs to wins in otherwise flat performances with some stellar 4th quarter play. Even in games where Kawhi was sucked into the offensive doldrums that the rest of the team seemed riddled with through most of the season, Kawhi would seem to find it in himself to channel a vague essence of His Airness in the 4th quarters of games to bring the Spurs back from the brink, with a string of four straight games from 11/30-12/6 against Dallas, Washington, Milwaukee and Minnesota coming to mind. The team continued chugging along, including a 13 game road winning-streak to start the season, and although the team dealt with a few speed bumps in the form of nagging injuries (including a small bout of gastroenteritis passing through the team), the Spurs headed into the New Year with an excellent 27-6 record. Along the way, the Spurs made time to officially give thanks to a legend and retired Tim Duncan’s number on December 18th.
A hot button topic surrounding the Spurs throughout the season was how consistently inconsistent LaMarcus Aldridge (or “Garbidge,” as he was dubbed in many a postgame thread) played throughout the course of the season. Although Spurs fans were more than thrilled to see Kawhi Leonard evolve into a consensus Top-5 talent, they were almost equally taken aback in how ineffective Aldridge would seem at times throughout the season. Though the former All-Star averaged 17.3/7.3 on the season and maintained a high level of defensive play, offensively it seemed that he would go through 5 game hot streaks in which he couldn’t miss, followed immediately by streaks of 7-10 games where he simply would seem unable to perform like a 2nd option, and in some cases, seemed almost disinterested in the game at hand, settling for fadeaway jumpers rather than doing the dirty work inside. A similar, though less pronounced, narrative went along with Tony Parker’s season as well—many fans expressed their frustration at his declining level of play due to his age, and his seeming “unwillingness” to pass Kawhi the ball at times in important situations. In spite of these denouncements, both veteran stars found ways to continue to contribute to the cause and help the team continue to win games.
By the end of the season, things proved clear that many of the complaints Spurs fans held about the team were more of a product of how spoiled our fanbase at large has been over the last two decades rather than any major flaws existing in the team's play. The Spurs would finish the months of January, February and March with records of 36-11, 45-13 and 56-16 respectively and would find ways to win one way or another throughout the season with Kawhi’s career high performance and an incredible MVP candidate duel being the standout contests to watch along the way. The Spurs came within spitting distance of the 1 seed (getting as close as 0.5 a game behind the Warriors while Kevin Durant was out with an injury), but eventually settled comfortably into the 2nd seed with a stellar 61-21 record, marking the first time in the Spurs’ decorated history that the team had won 60+ games in back-to-back seasons. With the playoffs looming on the horizon, the Spurs seemed primed to be darkhorse contenders for the Larry O’Brien trophy.


Western Conference 1st Round: #2 Spurs (61-21) vs #7 Grizzlies (43-39)
Game 1: Grizzlies 82 – Spurs 111
Game 2: Grizzlies 82 – Spurs 96
Game 3: Spurs 94 – Grizzlies 105
Game 4: Spurs 108 – Grizzlies 110
Game 5: Grizzlies 103 – Spurs 116
Game 6: Spurs 103 Grizzlies 93
The Spurs met with a familiar face in the First Round of the 2017 Playoffs in the Memphis Grizzlies. The Silver and Black flashed the promise of a short series in the first two matchups of the series with two big blowouts on the backs of Kawhi Leonard and Tony Parker, the latter of which showing a level of play unseen from him since the team’s 2014 Finals run.
However, as the series shifted to Memphis, the momentum of the series shifted as well. Rallied by Dave Fizdale’s fiery postgame conference in the wake of Game 2, the Grizzlies responded with strong performances in Games 3 and 4, with a throwback performance by the duo of Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol in Game 3 and a down-to-the-wire tit-for-tat showdown between an ascending Kawhi Leonard and the clutch tandem of Mike Conley and Gasol again in Game 4.
In the face of seeping doubts that the Spurs might have more than they could handle against the experienced Grizzlies, the Spurs responded in the last two games of the series, closing the series out in Memphis in Game 6.
Western Conference Semi-Finals: #2 Spurs (61-21) vs #3 Rockets (55-27)
Game 1: Rockets 126 Spurs 99
Game 2: Rockets 96 — Spurs 121
Game 3: Spurs 103 Rockets 92
Game 4: Spurs 104 — Rockets 125
Game 5: Rockets 107— Spurs 110
Game 6: Spurs 114 Rockets 75
Another familiar foe loomed on the horizon of the WCSF in the form of Mike D’Antoni and his newly evolved version of the 7SOL-Suns, this time led by James Harden. Fully embracing Morey-ball and its beliefs of only 3 point shots or shots at the rim, Harden and the Rockets went on a high-octane rampage through the NBA last season that caused many to view them as the only true challengers to the Warriors in the West due to their ability to keep up with the latter’s equally explosive offense.
This was fully evidenced in Game 1 of the series, where the Rockets demolished the Spurs by 27, and it seemed that the Spurs had no answer for Harden and his merry band of 3 point bombers. However, in classic Popovichian fashion, the Spurs managed to come back with adjustments and matched the Rockets’ blowout in Game 2. Kawhi led the charge with a 34/7/8 statline on 13/16 shooting. However, the Spurs lost Tony Parker for the rest of the playoffs due to a ruptured quadricep tendon. To that point, he had been averaging 16/2.5/3.1 on 61.6 TS%.
The Spurs pressed forward with another solid victory in Game 3, but rolled out of bed flat in Game 4 and were subsequently blown out by the Rockets again, though this game marked the beginning of Jonathon Simmons’ playoff breakout. Game 5, proverbially speaking, signaled the beginning of the end of the Spurs’ title hopes. In the 4th quarter, Kawhi Leonard sprained his ankle, an injury from which he would not fully recover from for the rest of the playoffs.
Down their two best players of the postseason thus far, Manu Ginobili stepped up once again as the heart of the team and delivered a signature Manu moment to give the Spurs a Game 5 victory. With the Spurs down Kawhi in Game 6, it seemed that the game was a scheduled loss as the team geared up for an all-out war in Game 7. However, such a clash never came to fruition as the Rockets came out surprisingly flat (though maybe not so surprising, as D’Antoni had shrunken his rotation to 7 players by this point in the series) and the Spurs were able to advance to the WCF to the tune of a 114-75 thrashing in Houston.
Western Conference Finals: #1 Warriors (67-15) vs #2 Spurs (61-21)
Game 1: Spurs 111 – Warriors 113
Game 2: Spurs 100 – **Warriors 136
Game 3: **Warriors 120 – Spurs 108
Game 4: Warriors 129 Spurs 115
Well, here it was folks. A highly anticipated match-up three years in the making that, for one reason or another, the Spurs could never fully hold up their end of the bargain for. One year, it was “Why is Portland the 4th seed?” followed by a 1st round(!!!) series for the ages against Chris Paul and the Clippers. The next, it seemed that the Thunder had finally put themselves together into the true championship contender we’d always anticipated them to be.
Finally, after two painfully early playoff exits, Spurs fans had the Western Conference Finals match-up they'd been salivating over ever since our last title run in 2014. At the end of the first half in Game 1, things couldn’t have been going more smoothly. With Kawhi Leonard back in the fold, the Spurs dominated the first 24 minutes of the game to the tune of a 20 point halftime lead. Then, just as the team had ascended with Kawhi’s play, so too did it come crashing down with his ankle. Suffering a second sprain in less than a week, Pop elected for the conservative move and kept Kawhi out of the rest of game and series.
Against the greatest team of our time—and likely all time—the Spurs without their on-the-court leader simply couldn’t keep up. Game 1's lead eventually evaporated into a loss, and relying on a trio of LaMarcus Aldridge, Patty Mills and Jonathon Simmons to carry the offensive burden, the Spurs would lose each of the next three games by double digits en route to a four game sweep to the eventual champions. The ending of the season could be aptly described by this famous James Taylor ballad: “sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground."
Kawhi With the Game Winner Against the Wiz!
Team Block Party
Kawhi Ruins Ben McLemore’s Night
Kawhi Leonard Wins It Against the Pacers!
Manu Saves Game 5
2 Way Dominance
Dedmon Drops the Hammer!
Justin Anderson: Ded Mon Walking
JSimms Introduces Meyers Leonard to a Poster
Kawhi With a Jordan-esque Finish


Key Additions
Player Pos PPG RPG APG From Acquisition Details
- 2017 NBA Draft -
1 Derrick White PG 18.1 4.1 4.4 #29 Pick (Colorado)
4 Jaron Blossomgame SF 17.7 6.3 1.5 #59 Pick (Clemson)
- Free Agency -
8 Rudy Gay SF 18.7 6.3 2.8 From Sacramento Kings (2yr / $17.3, PO)
77 Joffrey Lauvergne C 5.4 3.6 1.0 From Chicago Bulls (2yr / $3.1 PO)
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Going into the offseason, the Spurs were rumored to be players for a big name of some kind, be it signing Chris Paul or even engineering a trade for the likes of Paul George or Kyrie Irving. With the team sitting near the back of the draft as always, the fanbase had low expectations for an impact rookie. To top it all off, there were rumors that LaMarcus Aldridge was no longer content with his current situation with the team, and wanted out. Following our successful play for the aforementioned big man just two summers ago, the Spurs fanbase anticipated that the team might be in for a big shakeup again this summer.
While trade rumors continued to swirl around the Spurs during the draft, the Spurs managed to make off with Derrick White of Colorado and Jaron Blossomgame of Clemson. White is certainly an intriguing prospect, as he ranked among the leaders in TS% in the NCAA for players shooting 10+ field goals per game. Blossomgame was signed to the newly created two-way contract, and will likely be spending much of his time with the Austin Spurs for the coming year. White may find a fringe spot in the rotation, but is likely to spend lots of time in Austin as well for the coming year.
Going into free agency, the Spurs were claimed to have “never had a strong interest” in Chris Paul in the wake of his trade to the Rockets. All around the league, big names changed places, with a particularly massive exodus of All-Stars or recent All-Stars moving from East to West. However, the Spurs made a decent splash with the signing of Rudy Gay, along with the less celebrated signing of Joffrey Lauvergne. To much criticism, Pau Gasol was re-signed to a 3 year, $48m contract.
Breaking Down the Gasol Deal
At first look, this appears to be an awful, awful signing. However, it makes much more sense when broken down: initially, when Pau opted out of his contract for the 2017-18 season, he was owed $16m. Because the Spurs were unable to lure any star players in free agency with the money Gasol opted out of, the organization returned that $16m he originally gave up and gave him another $16m as a token of good faith.
The third year is what makes this deal very interesting: the last season on the contract is only partially guaranteed at $6.7m. Furthermore, if Pau retires after next season, the Spurs will be able to stretch that last year with the stretch provision, bringing the cap hit down to only $2.2m/year over 3 years. Overall, the deal was constructed as it was to show good faith on the organization’s part, as well as to protect the Spurs in the event of a career-ending injury to Gasol. The $16m is a tough pill to swallow, but in all is not as crazy as it seems at first glance, especially with the pricetag that the modern salary cap had previously established for big men. Gasol, as crazy as it seems, might very well be earning his proper value as a center for the coming two seasons.

2017-2018 Expectations:

Currently, Vegas has the Spurs oveunder win total on the season at 53.5 games, which feels low for a team that seems to have improved in the offseason. When contextualized with the rest of the West, it seems that the Spurs are relatively in a worse position than last year, but you have to keep in mind that the Spurs “only” play the Rockets, Thunder and Timberwolves (the three most-improved teams in the conference) 11 times combined. The Spurs went 10-2 combined against those three teams last year, and even if you figure that they go 5-6 against them this year, that still places them in the 56-57 win range again this year, all other factors remaining equal.
Based on their offseason moves (or lack thereof), the Spurs also seem to be hedging their bets on improvement from Davis Bertans and Kyle Anderson (with eyes on one of them to be taking David Lee’s place in the rotation), as well as one of Bryn Forbes or Dejounte Murray to become a staple in the guard rotation to replace the departed Jonathon Simmons.
Why Losing Simmons and Dedmon Will Not Hurt the Spurs
As an aside, as much of a fan-favorite as Simmons was, his production for the Spurs is not something that greatly contributed to our regular season success. He certainly had a penchant for tremendous highlight-reel plays, but he also would consistently make self-damaging plays on both offense and defense, and would play himself in and out of the rotation throughout the season, before obviously becoming a hot hand late into our playoff run. Dewayne Dedmon is a harder loss to quantify. On one hand, he was a big part in why our bench units were so successful defensively. On the other hand, he played himself out of a starting role almost as soon as he played himself into it, and completely lost his spot in the rotation following a sour performance in Game 1 of the Western Conference Semi-Finals. I will certainly miss watching both players play for the San Antonio Spurs. However, it remains to be seen whether the team will hurt for their losses, or continue to move forward as the Spurs are wont to do.
Pos 1st 2nd 3rd
PG Tony Parker Patty Mills Dejounte Murray
SG Danny Green Manu Ginobili Bryn Forbes
SF Kawhi Leonard Rudy Gay Kyle Anderson
PF LaMarcus Aldridge Davis Bertans
C Pau Gasol Joffrey Lauvergne
Did the Spurs Take Steps Back This Summer?
Davis Bertans May Have Made David Lee Expendable
In Midst of League Activity, San Antonio Spurs Hold Tight


Point Guards

#9 Tony Parker
With the days of Tony Parker being a star long in the rear view, Parker has struggled to find his footing in the new ecosystem of the team in the last three years. Starting in 2014-15, he looked to make room for a budding Kawhi Leonard, and then further made space when the team landed LaMarcus Aldridge the subsequent offseason. In spite of his age, Parker still has a few tricks in his bag and is capable of giving productive NBA minutes. It seemed that he had finally found his niche with the team again during last season’s playoffs, putting up 15.9 ppg on 61.6% TS%, and played his best ball since the 2014 championship season. Coming on the heels of endless calls by unfaithful Spurs fans for him to retire, be cut, or traded by the team due to his inconsistent regular season play in the last few years, this was a breath of fresh air. However, Parker faces a new challenge this year—coming off of a ruptured quadricep tendon injury that left him sidelined after Game 2 of the WCSF last season, Parker faces an uphill battle at 35 in attempting to return for his 17th NBA season. Early reports suggest that Parker may be returning in early December, far sooner than his original projected return of mid-to-late January. Hopefully this bodes well for The Fiery Francophile and the Spurs for the 2017-18 season.
#8 Patty Mills
Patty Mills has been a spark plug off the Spurs’ bench for the last four seasons. He was rewarded handsomely for his efforts this summer with a 4 year, $50m deal signed on the first day of free agency this summer, a move that surprised many onlookers both in how quickly a deal was struck and at how cheap, relative to Mills’ perceived value, the contract was. The Spurs and Mills affirmed a commitment to each other, and the Spurs would be hard-pressed to find a better man to fulfill Patty’s current role on the team. Going into the season, Mills looks to be picking up the majority of the minutes at PG until Parker returns, even though he will likely continue to come off the bench while the Spurs break in 2nd year guard Dejounte Murray.
#5 Dejounte Murray
Speaking of Dejounte, the Spurs’ 2016 1st round draft pick has rapidly evolved into a fan-favorite over the summer with his enthusiastic tweets about summer training, and a seemingly mentor-apprentice relationship developing between himself and Kawhi Leonard. When Murray was drafted, people raved about his upside, with some Mock Drafts even pegging him as a lottery-level talent. To see him fall to the end of the draft, and to the Spurs specifically, shocked many, and insiders around the league proclaimed Murray to be the Spurs’ next big steal. With Tony Parker sidelined for the next few weeks (and maybe more), Murray is projected to have every shot to prove these analysts right as we head into the 2017-18 season.

Shooting Guards

#14 Danny Green
After a wildly disappointing season in 2015-16, Danny Green appears to have rediscovered his 3-point shooting touch thanks, in his words, to Lasik eye surgery. Though a season-ending slump tarnished his numbers slightly, Green shot 37.9% from 3 last season after hovering around the Top 5 in the league for most of the year. He was also finally recognized by panelists as a member of the All-Defensive Team for the first time in his career, earning 2nd-Team honors. Green forms an excellent perimeter tandem with Kawhi Leonard (the duo is affectionately known as Wing Stop) and projects to be a solid role player for the team again as we head into the new NBA season.
#20 Manu Ginobili
After being unable to give Tim Duncan a proper send off from a game, Spurs fans attempted to make amends by giving Manu a standing ovation as he left the court for the last time during the 2016-17 postseason. Manu interpreted this as the fans pushing him away from the game, and so mulled over a potential retirement for weeks during the summer. After a good deal of backpedaling and urging him to stay, Spurs’ fans hopes were rewarded as Manu signed on to return for his 16th season with the team. Though it is certainly surprising to see Manu make it not only one, but two seasons (at least) longer than Tim did after playing with such a reckless abandon in his youth (and in all honesty, he still does…), Spurs fans are sure to cherish every Manu moment from now until he joins Duncan in the sunset, be it in 2018 or further down the line.
#11 Bryn Forbes
After being a mostly unknown, junk-time quantity throughout the 2016-17 season, Forbes went and lit the Summer League on fire during the offseason, showing himself to be a Patty Mills-type player. Though it is again uncertain what role, if any, he will be holding with consistency for the team during the year, Forbes has certainly shown the ability to take and make shots. In the current league climate, the Spurs will no doubt find a use for his 3-point shooting abilities.

Small Forwards

#2 Kawhi Leonard
After finishing 2nd and 3rd in the MVP race the last two years, Kawhi Leonard seems primed to take the front and center seat in this year’s race, with last year’s candidates Russell Westbrook and James Harden receiving new All-Star-calliber teammates in the forms of Paul George/Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul, respectively, to help spread their previously heavy responsibilities. The former Aztec has evolved quite literally past even the craziest homer’s wildest dreams, and has gone from a simple evolution of Bruce Bowen to a player who is rapidly approaching LeBron and KD for the title of best wing player in the world. Although his overall defensive intensity slipped a bit with his all-around game pivoting more towards offense, Leonard still showed that he was more than capable of guarding opponent teams’ key players down the stretch while shouldering the offensive load on his own as well. Although he is starting this season dealing with some nagging quad injuries from last year, if Kawhi is fully healthy and leading the team come Game 1, expect him to be right in the thick of the MVP discussion for the upcoming season.
#8 Rudy Gay
As the Spurs’ big splash of the offseason, Gay has already endeared himself to the Silver and Black fanbase by declaring himself a Spur for life. Gay is coming off a season where he averaged 18 ppg on 56% TS%, but he was only able to play in 30 games due to an Achilles injury. Especially for a player on the wrong side of 30, this could very well spell trouble for Gay and his career, but in recent years he has evolved into a player who relies less on his athleticism and has actually become less of a chucker and begun to choose his spots in smarter situations. If he can return at even 75% of the level he was at before his injury, he will easily be the Spurs’ 6th man and be on the shortlist for 6MOY contenders in the league.
#1 Kyle Anderson
Anderson has been slow to develop for the Spurs since he was drafted three years ago in 2014, but he has surely carved himself a niche role on the roster as well in that time. Though not very athletic (he’s known by the moniker “Slow-Mo”), he very clearly possesses a gift of excellent court vision, and has proven to be a decent shooter when given enough space to shoot. He also makes up for his lack of lateral quickness with fast hands and crafty footwork, and has displayed a propensity for blocking shots in the past as well. Slotting in more as a SF/PF combo, he projects to fill in the role that David Lee has left in the team this year along with Davis Bertans.

Power Forwards

#12 LaMarcus Aldridge
Although Aldridge had an overall solid year last year, many Spurs fans couldn’t help but be disappointed by his overall output. In equal parts, I’d estimate that Spurs fans expect too much of him almost as much as he’s underperformed. Speaking of die-hard Spurs fans specifically, many believed Aldridge to be the natural successor to Tim Duncan—to speak bluntly, he simply is not. Holding him to the legacy of a Top-10 player of all time is as unfair to Aldridge as it is an insult to Duncan. Players of Duncan’s caliber cannot simply be plucked off of trees. However, despite living in Duncan’s hefty shadow, Aldridge has been able to carve out a good role for himself next to Kawhi in the organization, and has remained especially impressive on defense since coming to the Alamo City. Though he doesn’t provide the consistent 2nd punch that Spurs fans hoped he’d be, Aldridge is still overall an excellent 2nd option who, by and large, is still worth the contract that we pay him. Expect him to attack this new season with vigor after the tumultuous end to the 2016-17 playoff run, as well as the drama-filled 2017 offseason. If there’s one thing Aldridge has shown over the years, it’s that he pays attention to fan criticism. I’m on board to give him another chance.
#42 Davis Bertans
With David Lee remaining unsigned throughout the offseason, it seems clear that the Spurs are placing their chips on either Bertans or Kyle Anderson (or perhaps both) to fill the former All-Star’s role for this upcoming season. Bertans showed last year that he is a long, surprisingly athletic forward with a good shooting touch and decent defensive instincts. While it remains to be seen whether or not he has the strength to battle with bigger bodies on the inside, he is currently a picturesque example of what a modern stretch-4 looks like in today’s league, and projects to be a solid bench piece for the Spurs in the upcoming season.


#16 Pau Gasol
Gasol, like Aldridge and Parker, faced a love/hate relationship with Spurs fans over the season. Often cited as too old and slow to be a viable rotation piece in this modern, faster NBA (the PnR defense when he and Parker were on the floor was especially difficult to watch), Gasol still showed that he was capable of guarding the rim, and was especially valuable on offense, stretching his range and hitting a career high 53.8% of his 104 3-point attempts on the season. However, now that Gasol is another year older and holds an even heftier contract under his belt, you can rest assured that Spurs fans will be even more critical of and attentive to his performance as the season progresses. Though he has aged relatively gracefully thus far, Father Time remains undefeated. We can only hope that the wheels stay on for a few more years.
#77 Joffrey Lauvergne
Acquired this offseason as a free agent, Lauvergne projects to be the team’s backup Center this season despite playing predominantly as a Power Forward thus far in his career. Lauvergne has a decent touch around the rim for a big man, and has good rebounding numbers for the relatively limited minutes he has played in his NBA career. Though he has not had a chance to show it yet, Lauvergne may also be a decent big man at moving the ball, as it seems many bigs who develop in Europe (the Gasols, Diaw, Jokic, Nurkic to name a few) have a tendency to have good court sense. Though this prognosis is certainly optimistic, Lauvergne could very well prove to be Pop and Co.’s next big reclamation project.
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[OC] Blast From the Past: Stars of the 2000s Pt.3 - C-Webb

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After being 2nd in voting two times in a row, he finally gets his own writeup.
What are 3 things that come to mind when you think of C-Webb?
  1. This
  2. This
  3. This
Just kiddin', put some respect on the man's name. Webber's been in the spotlight for longer than most of you all have been alive. He's been followed around since the start of his junior year (89-90) of high school. Jordan didn't have a ring at this time, LeBron and the Banana Boat crew were all 8 or younger. The Bobcats, Grizzlies, Raptors franchises weren't even around.
Player Comp: Giannis’s point guard skills/Pau's finesse/Griffin's athleticism.

High School and College

Webber attended Detroit Country Day School and at the time was the biggest thing out of Michigan high school basketball since Magic Johnson. Webber won three state championships with Country Day. As a senior in high school, Webber averaged 29.4 points and 13 rebounds per game. He was named Michigan's Mr. Basketball and the 1990–1991 National High School player of the year. He was named MVP in both the McDonald's All-Star game.
You know you're big when your college career is more detailed than most NBA careers.
Webber attended the University of Michigan for two years. While a Michigan Wolverine, Webber led the group of players known as the Fab Five, which included himself, Juwan Howard, Jalen Rose, Jimmy King, and Ray Jackson. This group entered Michigan as freshmen in the fall of 1991. The Fab Five became immensely popular. Four of the Fab Five (Webber, Rose, Howard, and King) made it to the NBA.
In Webber's last ever college game- Michigan's second consecutive championship game with 11 seconds remaining, Webber brought the ball up the court into a half court trap. Michigan was down 73–71. Webber attempted to call for a timeout while his team had none remaining, resulting in a technical foul that effectively clinched the game for North Carolina. Webber continues to receive ridicule for his time-out error. His father has a license plate that says timeout, Jesus Christ that's just brutal.
The game marked the end of Webber's two-year collegiate basketball career. In his second season, he was a first team All-American selection and a finalist for the John R. Wooden Award and Naismith College Player of the Year.
These awards and honors have been vacated due to University of Michigan and NCAA sanctions related to the University of Michigan basketball scandal. In that scandal, Webber received over $200,000 from a local booster while playing basketball for Michigan. Webber was convicted of perjury and banned from any affiliation with the Michigan program until 2013. The irony of this scandal was that Michigan got busted while trying to recruit Mateen Cleaves, who would join their direct rivals and become a Michigan State Spartan instead. (Go Green!)

The Draft

Upon being selected by the Orlando Magic with the 1st pick Webber was immediately traded to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for Penny Hardaway and three future first round draft picks.

The Warriors

Webber had one of the best seasons for a rookie ever, averaging 17.5 points and 9.1 rebounds per game and ran away with the NBA Rookie of the Year Award. He was instrumental in leading the Warriors back into the playoffs where they were swept by the Charles Barkley-led Phoenix Suns in three games. However, he feuded with his coach, Don Nelson. Nelson wanted to make Webber primarily a post player, despite Webber's superb passing ability and good ball handling skills for someone his size at 6 ft 10 in (2.08 m) tall. It's like JKidd forcing Giannis to be a post player rather than unleashing him on the league as a 2K demigod come to life. Webber also disliked playing center in small-ball lineups.. In the 1994 off-season, the Warriors acquired Rony Seikaly so that Webber could play primarily at power forward. It was too late. Webber exercised a one-year escape clause in his contract, stating he had no intention of returning to the Warriors. Golden State agreed to a sign-and-trade deal, sending Webber to the Washington Bullets for forward Tom Gugliotta and three first-round draft picks.

The Bullets

Webber was traded to the Washington Bullets where he was reunited with his college teammate, Juwan Howard. He spent the next three years with the Bullets. He improved his averages in 94-95 as he averaged 20.1 points and 9.6 rebounds. He only played 15 games in 95-96 due to injuries, he averaged 23.7 points and 7.6 rebounds. Webber rebounded the following year averaging a double-double for the first time in his career (20.1 - 10.3) and was named to his first All-Star team in 1997. The same season, Webber led the Bullets into the playoffs for the first time in nine years, but they were swept by the Bulls in three games. The Wizards regressed the following year, missing the playoffs. Webber averaged 21.9 and 9.5

The Kings

A player of C-Webb's caliber wouldn't spend 6 seasons with 3 teams. He had monster potential and monster stats, but his frequency to clash with people made teams stay away. He was traded to the Kings for Mitch Richmond and Otis Thorpe. To Webber's disdain, Sacramento were perennial basement dwellers. It would all change quickly as the Kings quickly assembled a core that would be a player in the West for years t come..
  • Along with Webber arriving, they signed Peja Stojakovic and Vlade Divac
  • They drafted White Chocolate.
The Kings won 27 games in 98-99.
But it was a lockout shortened season, so 27 wins got them the 6th seed and a date with the Utah Jazz. Webber, who just finished the season averaging 20 and 13(league leader in rebounds) helped the Kings push the Jazz to 5 games but ultimately lost.
The new-look Kings led by Webber became one of the league's top franchises and NBA title contenders. Webber was a perennial All- Star and was one of the premier power forwards in the NBA.
For the 1999–2000 season Webber was the cover athlete on NBA Jam 2000. Webber led the Kings to 44 wins, which was only good enough for the 8th seed and they faced the Los Angeles Lakers in the first around the playoffs. They were not intimated. The home team won all the games in the series with the Lakers taking the first two games of the series in Los Angeles and the Kings won the next two in Sacramento, behind a 23-14-8-7-4 statline from Webber in game four. The series went back to Los Angeles for a deciding game 5. The Kings lost Game 5 and the series to the Lakers who went on to win the championship that year. Webber averaged 24.5 and 10.5 for the season. The playoff series saw Jason Williams being benched in the fourth quarter in all 5 games due to his turnover-prone style.
Webber had a 2000–01 season for the ages, averaging a career-high 27.1 points and 11.1 rebounds. He finished 4th in MVP voting and was an All-Star starter for the West. In the 2001 Playoffs, Webber and the Kings won their first playoff series together, dispatching the Phoenix Suns in four games of the first round to advance to the second round, where they faced the Los Angeles Lakers for a second year in a row. Unfortunately, the Lakers were in the midst of the greatest playoff run in history and swept the Kings in 4.
The offseason was a big one for Webber and the Kings as on July 27, 2001, Webber signed a $127 million, seven-year contract with the Kings. The Kings were also getting frustrated for Jason "incapable of completing a chest pass" Williams due to his tendency for turnovers. They traded him and Nick Anderson for Mike Bibby and Brent Price.
In the 2001–02 season, Webber was hampered by injuries only playing in 54 games. But he and Bibby formed one of the leagues best 1-2 punches, leading the Kings to a Pacific division title and a franchise-record (and league-best) 61–21 season. He also made his fourth All-Star team and the All-NBA Second Team.
In the 2002 Playoffs the Kings defeated the Utah Jazz and Dallas Mavericks in a combined 9 games (Utah 3-1, Dallas 4-1).

The Most Controversial Series Ever

This sets up the 2002 Western Conference Finals against their arch rivals, the defending-champion Los Angeles Lakers led by Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal. It was the most controversial series in NBA history and one of the most controversial in North American sports history.
The series wasn't very controversial at the start through 3 games, as the Kings took a 2-1 lead.
Game 4 saw the Kings lead by as many as 24. The Lakers kept chipping away at the lead. With 26.9 seconds left, Shaq proved he was physically capable of making free throws, making both at the line to make it a 1 point game. Value Divac misses a free throw at the other end before making his second one. With a two-point lead, this happened.
Could the Kings come back from this? You bet they do, Chris Webber drops 29 and 13 and Mike Bibby brings home the win. The Kings take a 3-2 series lead, setting the stage for the biggest bullshit the NBA ever pulled.
Game Six was a game that had many controversial calls, including a late-game foul on Mike Bibby—after he was bleeding from being elbowed in the nose by Bryant. In a nutshell, this sums it up. The Lakers shot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter. Tim Donaghy alleged that this game was fixed by the NBA while the NBA ruled that this game was poorly officiated with no evidence of being fixed ("Ratings").
With that being said, it set up a Game 7. The Kings dream season came to this. was nip Webber recorded 20 points, 11 assists, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 1 steal and Bryant had 30 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 steals. Shaq had 35 points, 13 rebounds, 4 blocks and 2 assists. The game went into overtime with missed shots from teammates Stojakovic and Doug Christie. Chris Webber fouled O'Neal with 1:27 left in overtime. O'Neal made both free throws and the Kings would go on to lose Game 7 of the series at home. It was the closest that Webber ever got to a championship, it was all downhill from here.
By the way for more about the match-fixing stuff, there's a YT channel dedicated to his here

The Beginning of the End

In the next season, Webber averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds per game.Webber's injury woes continued, missing the All Star game with a sprained ankle. In the second game of the 2003 Western Conference Semifinals against the Dallas Mavericks, Webber suffered a career-threatening knee injury while running down the lane that forced him to miss nearly a year of action. This put Webber's career at risk and the Kings's title chances on life support. The Kings would go on to lose this series.
Webber missed a massive chunk of the next season but returned for the final 23 games of the 2003–04 season, in which he led the Kings into the 2004 Playoffs where they faced the Dallas Mavericks for the third year in a row, the Kings defeated the Mavericks in five games in the first round. They reached the Western Conference Semifinals against the top-seeded Minnesota Timberwolves led by league MVP Kevin Garnett.
The Kings and Wolves were in a heated series going all the way to a deciding Game 7. Webber had 16 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists and 1 steal and Garnett recorded a defensive performance for the ages with 32 points, 21 rebounds, 2 assists, 4 steals, and 5 blocks. The last play of the game with the Kings trailing the Timberwolves with 02.5 seconds left in the game, Webber received the inbounds pass and pump-faked Garnett in the air and got a clean look as Garnett avoided contact for a three-point shot. It rimmed out as time expired and the Kings lost Game 7 and the series, marking the third year in a row that the Kings lost a Game 7. The Kings have never won a playoff series since. Webber averaged 18.7 and 8.7 in his last full season with the Kings.
He goes down as arguably the greatest King of all time.

The Sixers

In February 2005, Webber was traded, along with Michael Bradley and Matt Barnes, to the Philadelphia 76ers for Kenny Thomas, Brian Skinner, Corliss Williamson. Webber became the second star on the 76ers, behind Allen Iverson. He eventually helped the Sixers earn a berth in the 2005 playoffs, where the Sixers lost to the Detroit Pistons. Webber averaged 15.6 and 7.9 in his half-season with Philadelphia.
However, they did not reach the playoffs in 2006, despite Webber putting up a 20-10 statline. The injury he suffered years back came back to bite him as due to the microfracture surgery on his knee, Webber lost his lateral quickness and jumping ability. Webber was seen as a defensive liability and was usually benched for the 4th quarters. This caused Webber to reportedly call for a trade.
During the 2006–07 season Webber only played 18 of 35 games for the Sixers leading the media to question his motivation. On January 11, 2007 Sixers GM Billy King announced that the Sixers and Webber had agreed to a buyout on the remaining two years left on his contract. Later that day, the Sixers waived Webber, making him a free agent. Webber averaged 11 and 8 in his final season.

The Pistons

On January 16, 2007, Webber signed with the Detroit Pistons. He has stated throughout his career that he always wanted to play for his hometown team. His usual number 4 had been retired in honor of Joe Dumars, so Webber wore number 84.
The Pistons were the first seed in the East but failed to advance to the finals after losing to the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games in the Eastern Conference Finals, leaving Webber short of an NBA Finals appearance yet again. Indeed, Webber performed well in the 2007 Playoffs despite receiving limited minutes. Webber still managed to average 10 points and 6 rebounds per game in the playoffs and shot an impressive 52.4% from the field. His efforts were highlighted by a Game 5( performance in the Eastern Conference Finals in which Webber scored 20 points and grabbed 7 boards. Nevertheless, Detroit still lost what turned out to be the key game as LeBron James dropped 48 points, scoring the last 25 for the Cavaliers. Webber ended up averaging 11.3 PPG and 6.7 rebounds for the Pistons. During the off-season, Detroit did not re-sign Webber.

Back in the Bay

On January 29, 2008, the Golden State Warriors signed Webber for the rest of the season. He played in only nine games for the Warriors, averaging 3.9 points and 3.6 rebounds.
On March 25, 2008 (one day after my birthday lol), Webber officially retired from basketball due to persistent problems with his surgically repaired knee and was waived by the Warriors.On March 27, 2008, Webber made his first appearance on television on Inside the NBA on TNT, alongside Charles Barkley and host Ernie Johnson. On April 25, 2008, TNT offered Webber a job to be a commentator for the postseason . On February 6, 2009, Webber returned to ARCO Arena, home of the Sacramento Kings, to participate in the ceremonies surrounding the retirement of his jersey, #4.


Since retiring from the NBA, Webber has become an analyst for the NBA on TNT. At first he served as an occasional guest analyst on TNT's Inside the NBA during the 2008–09 season during Charles Barkley's leave of absence.
He was also a commentator during this year’s March Madness where he was roasted. But hey the man gives out pointers for young ballers to pay attention and provides solid knowledge, he’s probably one of the best in the business. Pretty odd.
Sorry this took ages guys. I was really busy the last week. Vote here whether Jermaine O’Neal or Andre Miller will be next.
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132+ Teams in 132+ Days: Texas A&M Aggies

The Fighting Texas Aggies of Texas A&M
"Howdy. I've got a little story for ya, Ags!" Traditional start to Midnight Yell.
Year Founded: 1876, the first public institution of higher education in Texas.
Location: College Station, Texas
Total Attendance: 53,337, with roughtly 40,000 being undergrads.
Live Mascot: The first Reveille came to Texas A&M in January 1931.
A group of cadets hit a small black and white dog on their way back from Navasota. They picked up the dog and brought her back to school so they could care for her. The next morning, when the bugler woke the students with the song "Reveille", the dog started barking. She was named after this morning wakeup call.
The following football season she was named the official mascot when she led the band onto the field during their half-time performance. When Reveille I died on January 18, 1944, she was given a formal military funeral on the gridiron of Kyle Field. She was then buried at the north entrance to the field, as all Reveilles are, facing the scoreboard so that she can always watch the Aggies outscore their opponent.
Reveille I, mut.
Rev II, a Shetland Sheepdog.
Rev VII, a Rough Collie, was aparently quite the player
Rev VIII, the current Rev, hanging out with Obama
When she dies, there is a special cemetery located outside the north endzone of Kyle Field that features it's own scoreboard so the Rev's can always keep up with the team.
Why put the prettiest girls in school out on the track?
We choose to hang out with them in the stands.
In exchange we have Yell Leaders. (See Traditions for more info)
Stadium: Kyle Field and get ready, we're about to spend half a billion making Kyle much bigger.
Kyle Field is named after Edwin Kyle, an 1899 graduate of the school and a professor of Horticulture. At the time, the school didn't want to give money for a football field, so Prof Kyle fenced a part of his fields used for agriculture.
Using $650 of his own money, he purchased a covered grandstand and built wooden bleachers. The seating capacity was 500 people.
Kyle Field is currently the 13th largest football-only stadium in the NCAA, and next year the stadium should hold 109,000 and then we'll come back down to 102,500 to settle as the largest stadium in the SEC.
Football games have been played at the same location since 1904, and it was designated a football field in 1905. Permanent stadium construction began in 1927.
Stadium Location: Construction began last Monday on campus across from the Memorial Student Center.
• Texas A&M is the 18th all-time winningest program in Division 1 with 691 wins.
Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech are both within 4 wins, so moving up on the list might happen in the near future.
Conference Champions (18): 1917, '19, '21, '25, '27, '39, '40, '41, '56, '67, '75, '85, 86, '87, '91, '92, '93, '98. Second most conference championships of the SWC.
Number of Bowl Games: (34) 15-19.
National Titles (3ish): 1939 AP National Champs; 1919 - undefeated, unscored on, 275-0 for the season; 1927 - Sagarin gave us a retroactive MNC on this one. We don't really claim it, either.
Texas - While currently inactive, this is still the 3rd most played rivalry in CFB at 118 games played. Texas leads the series, but here is a little history to help keep perspective.
Until the late 1960's, A&M faced the most difficult recruiting impediment in CFB. We were all-male and all-military. The service academies were seen as being 'more legitimate' than A&M, and Texas, being co-ed without restrictions pulled in a lot more talent over the years, as you can imagine. It's quite amazing that A&M won at all, much less having come in 2nd in conference championships during that time.
In 1975, the Aggies finished the season in the Top 25 for the first time since opening up the campus, and in an epic win over Texas made the series dramatically more even. Since 1975, the Aggies lead the series 19-18 over the Longhorns.
Texas Tech - Mostly ignored by the Aggies during the SWC, it became heated when Mike Leach set his sights on A&M. Aggies lead the series 37-32-1.
Baylor - This rivalry was over-heated during the early days. Play was suspended for years after an A&M student was killed at a game in Waco, and other Aggies threatened to load up military gear and invade Waco.
Under Coach Fran, the Aggies gave Baylor their first conference win in the Big12. Aggies lead the series 68-31-9.
LSU - The Aggies have played the Tigers off-and-on since 1899, and with bordering states, shared recruiting territories, and starting next year, a Thanksgiving game, this series looks to be heating up quite nicely.
The Aggies are 7-2-1 at Kyle Field and 10-22-1 in Baton Rouge. Overall, the Tigers lead 28-20-3.
2013 Season
The Aggie faithful are excited. We've got a lot of returning talent, and coaches that proved their worth last season in the SEC. Plus our schedule is very nice ... you know, as far as SEC schedules featuring Alabama can be nice.
8/31 - Rice
9/7 - Sam Houston State
9/14 - Alabama
9/21 - SMU
9-28 - at Arkansas
10-12 - at Ole Miss
10-19 - Auburn
10-26 - Vanderbilt
11-2 - UTEP
11-9 - Mississippi State
11-23 - at LSU
11-30 - at Mizzou
The Greats
Greatest Games:
2012 Cotton Bowl. What? Not the Alabama game? After a turbulent transition from the Big12 to the SEC, beating the Big12 co-champion was the greatest way (outside of playing beating Texas) to cap off our move to the SEC. Beating Alabama in their house was nice, but Oklahoma was retribution for the Fran and Sherman years.
• 2002 - Aggies knock off #1 Oklahoma with new offensive coordinator Kevin Sumlin calling the shots.
• 1998 – A&M hands #3 Nebraska their first loss in almost 2 full years, then knocks off #2 Kansas State in the CCG.
• 1990 – - BYU's Heisman Trophy winner, Ty Detmer, has both shoulders separated against the Aggies in the Holiday Bowl. Warning, the first half of the footage is brutal.
Bo knows the Aggies. - - Auburn faced the Aggies in '86 in the Cotton Bowl after Bo Jackson won the Heisman. Watch at 3:20 when Bo gets three shots in a row at scoring from inside the 5 and walks off the field with a big bag of nothing.
• 1975 - You didn't think we'd go without a UT game here, did you? The 1975 season was the first season that A&M ended the year with a top 25 ranking, after going co-ed and ROTC-optional.
It also featured the highest ranked A&M and UT teams to ever play. The #2 Aggies knocked off Earl Campbell and the #5 Horns ushering in a new era of Aggie football.
• Honorable Mention: The '99 "Bonfire Game" against Texas. That was the last year A&M held bonfire on campus, as tragedy struck. 11 students and one former former student lost their lives in the accident leading up to the game against Texas.
In all my years at A&M, and in all the years following the team, I've only seen two visiting bands receive standing ovations from the Aggie fans. One was Rice's MOB back in the Southwest Conference days, and the other was the Longhorn band on that afternoon.
We were all Texans and friends that day, and not rivals.
• In case you want a solid history of our program, here are two fantastic videos of A&M football history, each about 12 minutes long:
Texas A&M history from 1894 to 1971
1971 through the end of the Big12.
Greatest Plays:
Aggies beat Texas in '88. Texas QB Brett Stafford tries to quiet the Aggie crowd, and it ends poorly.
• Quentin Coryatt lays down The Hit against . The recever's jaw is broken in three places.
Sirr Parker wraps up double OT and drives a nail into the heart of #2 Kansas State and ends Bill Snyder's best chance to get into a National Championship game.
Greatest Players:
College Hall of Fame players: Ray Childress, DT; Dave Elmendorf, S; Joel Hunt, QB; John Kimbrough, FB; Charlie Krueger, T; Jack Pardee, FB; Joe Routt, G; Gene Stallings, DB; Joe Utay, HB.
Heisman Winners: John David Crow and Johnny Manziel.
Honorable mention:
Bucky Richardson, local hero and QB.
Dat Nguyen, LB, Lombardi Award, Chuck Bednarik Award.
Shane Lechler, starter at punter and kicker, on the depth chart for linebacker and was the backup QB in '98, and currently has a Hall of Fame worthy NFL career is still going.
Luke Joeckel, Outland Award.
Randy Bullock, Lou Groza winner.
Von Miller, Butkus Award.
• A&M has had 22 Consessus All-Americans:
Sam Adams, DE; Marcus Buckley, LB; Randy Bullock, PK; Ray Childress, DT; John David Crow, RB; Dave Elmendorf, FS; Tony Franklin, PK; Aaron Glenn, DB; Johnny Holland, LB; Robert Jackson, LB; Luke Joeckel, OT; Darren Lewis, RB; Johnny Manziel, QB; Von Miller, DE/LB; Damontre Moore, DE; Dat Nguyen, LB; Marshall Robnett, OG; Joe Routt, OG; Ed Simonini, LB; Pat Thomas, CB, and John Kimbrough, RB was named consensus All-American in both '39 and '40.
Aggies in the NFL as of July 25:
Ben Bass, DE, Dallas Cowboys
Martellus Bennett, TE, Chicago Bears
Michael Bennett, DT, Seattle Seahawks
Red Bryant, DT, Seattle Seahawks
Randy Bullock, K, Houston Texans
Terrence Frederick, DB, New York Giants
Jeff Fuller, WR, Miami Dolphins
Cyrus Gray, RB, Kansas City Chiefs
Mike Goodson, RB, New York Jets
Danny Gorrer, CB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Geoff Hangartner, C, Carolina Panthers
Tony Jerod-Eddie, DE, San Francisco 49ers
Luke Joeckel, T, Jacksonville Jaguars
Johnny Jolly, DT, Green Bay Packers
Jorvorskie Lane, RB, Miami Dolphins
Shane Lechler, P, Houston Texans
Kevin Matthews, C, Washington Redskins
Jamie McCoy, TE, Pittsburgh Steelers
Stephen McGee, QB, Houston Texans
Christine Michael, RB, Seattle Seahawks
Von Miller, OLB, Denver Broncos
Damontre Moore, DL, New York Giants
Don Muhlbach, LS, Detroit Lions
Spencer Nealy, DL, Minnesota Vikings
Uzoma Nwachukwu, WR, Houston Texans
Sean Porter, OLB, Cincinnati Bengals
Jordan Pugh, S, Washington Redskins
Lionel Smith, DB, Jacksonville Jaguars
Jonathan Stewart, LB, St. Louis Rams
Ryan Tannehill, QB, Miami Dolphins
Steven Terrell, DB, Jacksonville Jaguars
Brian Thomas, OL, Miami Dolphins
Cody Wallace, C, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Greatest Coaches:
'Uncle Charlie' Moran ('09-'14) - coached Jim Thorpe in high school. Went 38-8-4 at A&M, and left to go to Centre College. He racked up a 42-6-1 record and a MNC there. He was also coaching Centre against A&M when the Aggie 12th Man tradition began.
Also was a National League umpire in 4 world series.
Dana X. Bible - Inducted into the College Hall of Fame in '51. Invented the T-formation. Led A&M to two undefeated, unscored on seasons.
Took a year off coaching to be a pilot during WWI.
Came back and coached the Aggies to a SWC conference championship in football, basketball and baseball in the same season. Left to go to Texas where he won 3 SWC championships and finished in the AP Poll 5 times in 10 years.
• Other coaches deserving credit: Hall of Fame coaches and their year of induction that were head coach at A&M include - Matty Bell, '55; Bear Bryant, '86; Homer Norton, '71; Gene Stallings, 2010; R.C. Slocum, 2012.
Former Aggie players who are current coaches:
Dennis Allen, head coach, Oakland Raiders
Gary Kubiak, head coach, Houston Texans
Dan Campbell, tight ends, Miami Dolphins
Kyle Caskey, offensive QC Cincinnati Bengals
Jerry Fontenot, assistant offensive line coach, Green Bay Packers
Kirk Parrirsh, college scouting coordinator, Seattle Seahawks
Shawn Slocum, special teams coordinator, Green Bay Packers.
I've included both a short version and a link to some of our most interesting traditions. I know I've skipped more than a few, but this is a good start.
Yell Leaders – A&M was an all-male school, but often times girls from a local women's college would get bussed in. Some seniors thought it would be funny to haze the freshmen in front of the women.
So they made a group of freshmen put on janitor's clothing and stand out on the track and be stupid.
But after the game something amazing happened. Those freshmen all had no problems getting dates.
The next week it was Seniors out there with the overalls on.
100 years later, and it's two juniors and three seniors. Each year there is a campus-wide election, and Yell Leader vote is dramatically more important to the average student than class president or any of the other boring votes.
Why do we keep the Yell Leaders instead of switching to cheerleaders? When a 'cheer leader' does a cheer of more than 4 sylables, guys gawk at them and girls ignore them. When a Yell Leader leads a yell, any yell, 30,000+ fans raise their voices to chant along.
The Yells - There are a bunch of them, and if you go to any Aggie Yell Practice or game, you'll most likely hear all of 'em. In order to do a yell correctly, you have to 'hump it.' See below.
• [The Spirit and the War Hymn] - Other schools have a school song and a fight song. The Aggies have The Spirit of Aggie Land and The War Hymn
There has been much controversy at ESPN and newspapers outside of Texas A&M over the lyrics of both songs.
The ending of the Spirit has been officially changed from "We are the Aggies / the Aggies are we / We're from Texas AMC" to "We are the Aggies / the Aggies so true / We're from Texas AMU" to designate that we are no longer Texas A&M college.
The media has also called for A&M to change the War Hymn as Texas is no longer playing us in any sport.
Lyrics feature, "'the eyes of Texas are upon you' / That is the song they sing so well / Sounds Like Hell / So good bye to Texas University / We're gonna beat you all to ...
After which is the most striking part of the Hymn, when fans put their arms around the people next to them and 'saw' while singing "Saw Varsity's horns off" and "Varsity's horns are sawed off."
This is, of course, in reference to the Texas mascot that was known simply as Varsity before they changed it to Bevo.
As for the "controversy", all Aggies have completely ignored it and we are unanamous in sticking with our traditional songs.
Gig 'em - Rather than end a conversation with "goodbye", many conversations between Aggies end with "gig 'em", usually accompanied by a thumbs up. This tradition began at a 1930 Midnight Yell Practice held before the football game against .
In an attempt to excite the crowd, Pinky Downs, a 1906 Texas A&M graduate and member of the school's Board of Regents, asked "What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?" Using a term for frog hunting, he answered his own question, "Gig 'em, Aggies!"
For emphasis, he made a fist with the thumb extended. The phrase and hand signal proved popular, and it became the first hand sign of the Southwest Conference. All 12 schools evenutally adopted hand signs of their own.
The 12th Man - A&M is playing Centre College, one of the most dominant programs of the era. So many Aggies are injured that a former player, E. King Gill, is called out of the stands.
Gill jumped into an injured player's jersey and stood ready to help the team if they needed him. Now all 30,000 plus students stand ready through every game to go help the Aggies if the coach calls.
Midnight Yell - Where else would you want to be at midnight on Friday before a game but with 30,000 fans hanging out at the stadium. For road games we normally find a bar to crash with the travelling fans.
Aggies go through all the yells, and listen to very well thought out stories and anectdotes by the Yell Leaders decipher the somewhat humerous jokes made by the (we're almost positive) not drunk Yell Leaders.
This is open to any one, including fans of opposing schools and curious onlookers ... unless you force us to block you out.
Hump it - Look again at the picture for Midnight Yell. Those fans are all leaning over with their hands on their knees in the middle of a yell. Why? Because you can yell louder when you lean over.
Aggies Hump it for all Yells, and during crunch time, you'll see plenty of Aggies in the stands humping it while screaming.
Howdy - The traditional way to start every speech to Aggies. If you say Howdy, normally the crowd will respond with "Howdy" back to you. You will also hear the word Howdy more times per day on our campus than anywhere else in the world. It's our greeting and we use it. A lot.
Parson's Mounted Calvalry and the Spirit of '02 - a 1902 Howitzer that we fire off on kickoffs and scores at football games. We found it in a ravine while chopping wood for Bonfire. You never let good military hardware go to waste.
Corps of Cadets - Once mandatory at A&M, the Corps is much smaller than it was back in the 60s. During WWII, A&M put more servicemen into the armed forces than any other school, including West Point.
A&M still produces more officers than any university, except for the service academies. 42% of Corps members receive a commission in the US Armed Forces.
The Fighting Texas Aggie Band. - Texas A&M features a military style marching band. They are fantastic. Especially if you are used to the standard 'show bands' that everyone has. Click the link and see some of their performances.
The FTAB is part of the the Corps. I doubt there is an Aggie who graduated in the last 40 years that doesn't get a chill when they hear, "Now forming at the North end of Kyle Field ... "
Remember the part of the 12th Man tradition where I said the students stand for the whole football game? They stand for the FTAB, too. Even when the temperature is well above 100 degrees, the Aggie students will stay standing for everything except the opposing team's band.
Century Tree- Want to propose on campus? We've got a tree for that. All Aggies grab a kiss under this tree at some point in their time at A&M.
Elephant Walk - Elephant Walk marks the end of the usefulness of the Aggie seniors to the student body. Like dying elephants, which wander the jungle looking for a place to die after their value to the herd is over, thousands of seniors will join hands and wander aimlessly about campus visiting landmarks for the symbolic "last time."
This happens after the last home football game becaues the other sports don't matter.
Reveille - - She really is the highest ranking member of the Corps of Cadets.
She goes to classes with Corps members, where if she barks, you stand a good chance of the prof cancelling the class for the day.
She has her own bed, and the right to take over the bed of any Corps member on campus.
The grass at the MSC. The Memorial Student Center building and the grounds around it is a tribute to our servicemen around the world. If you are in the MSC, you are asked to take off your hat, and if you are around the MSC, you are asked to not stand on the grass.
The MSC also features the Medals of Honor won by seven former students.
Aggie ring - Many schools have rings, but for Aggies this it the most visible way for graduates of Texas A&M to recognize each other. The Aggie Ring is worn by current and former students, and may be used to distinguish seniors from other students on campus.
The first Aggie Ring was designed by E. C. Jonas in 1894, and the design has remained relatively unchanged since; the only major change came when the school's name was changed from the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas to Texas A&M University in 1963.
Ring dunking - After receiving your Aggie Ring, you aren't really entitled to wear it until you've dunked it, normally in a pitcher of beer. From the time you put it in, your friends will time how long it takes to get it out, so you get to chug beer and try to catch the ring in your teeth.
As a member of the Class of '97, I had 97 seconds to get it out. Kids these days are pushing 113 seconds. Way too easy.
I've seen people 'dunk' their rings in a super sized banana splits and drink them out of non-alcoholic drinks, and I've seen them drain a pitcher in under 15 seconds. My wife ('99) and I both finished ours in under a minute and a half. It was nerve wracking, but well worth it. We still have the pitchers.
Bonfire - I was kind of hoping that someone else would write this section. I helped build three bonfire's at A&M and there is nothing like it. Thousands of students going out into the woods, doing heavy labor and realizing the rewards right before the Texas game.
It fostered huge competitions between the residents halls over the 3-4 months of work. It brought out tens of thousands of folks before the big rivalry game. It was simply epic, and I miss it a lot.
My freshman year, the BCS Eagle, the local paper, estimated the crowd at over 100,000 people. The next year when the game was held in Austin, there were still over 60,000 people at Bonfire on A&M's campus.
The tradegy that ended bonfire was impossibly awful. As a person who had climbed the stacks for years, I know how and why things went wrong, but I'll never understand it. It should not have happened, and my heart goes out to the families who lost loved ones.
Wrecking Crew – Once the name of the highly respected and feared Aggie defense, Coach Fran removed the monicar and told the team to 'win it back.' What he forgot to do was teach them to play defense. As the defense gets better the name comes out more often, and soon the Aggie D will leave the field to chants of Wrecking Crew again.
Aggie Terminology Yes, we have a glossary of terms that every Aggie knows and uses on a pretty regular basis. Except for the 'two percenters'. Have you ever heard an Aggie 'Whoop'? That's a privilege held for only the juniors, seniors and graduates. Catch a 'Fish' 'Pulling Out' and you can make them 'Push'. (for explinations, read the terms in the links)
Fish Pond - When the Aggies win a home football game, the freshmen in the Corps of Cadets chase the Yell Leaders around Kyle Field, and, once they are captured, carry them across campus and toss them into Fish Pond, a fountain full of very cold water. And yes, in '93 it snowed during the Texas game and the Yell Leaders were still given a nice bath after the win. The freshmen dunking is what gives 'Fish Pond' it's name, as no fish live in the water.
Fish Drill Team - The award winning drill team can often be found practicing in the Quad by the Corps dorms. The team was featured during the opening credits to A Few Good Men, linked here. They are pretty amazing to watch.
Fish Camp - The summer before a students' freshman year, the 'Fish' are invited to a 4 day camp in Palestine, Texas where they learn the Aggie Tradtions and Yells.
Fish Camp features over 900 counselors, if that give you an idea of how big it is.
Texas A&M has a pair of extraordinary traditions. I've tried to capture the spirit, but I'd invite each of you to join with us any time to see these live.
Silver Taps - On the first Tuesday of any month, if an undergrad or graduate student has passed away, there will be a small card with the deceased students name, class, major, and date of birth placed on the statue of Lawrence Sullivan Ross in the Academic Plaza.
That night, lights are turned off all over campus, and at 10:15, students and family members will gather silently around the statue. Shortly there after, the Ross Volunteers will march in, stand at attention, then fire three rifle volleys, breaking the silence.
Then Silver Taps, a special version of Taps, is played three times from the top of the Academic Building ... once to the north, south, and west. It is not played to the east to signify that sun will never rise on that Aggie again. After the buglers play, the students silently return to their homes.
I can not properly put into words how striking this ceremony is.
My freshman year, as Silver Taps slowely faded away, the silence was broken by a mother who had cried quietly during the ceremony. She softly said, "Thank you" in the darkness to the faceless people gathered, in a voice wracked with tears, and I doubt any of us left with dry eyes.
Muster - Muster is the tradition that forever unites the Aggies past with Aggies present. It is Texas A&M's most solemn and most visible tradition.
Muster was first held on June 26, 1883, and it's been held on San Jacinto Day, April 21st, since 1903. This is a day where former students of Texas A&M gathered together to '... live over again our college days, the victories and defeats won and lost upon drill ground and classroom. Let every alumnus answer a roll call.'
No matter where Aggies are, whether it is two or three, or the thousands who gather on the Texas A&M campus, they find other Aggies to celebrate the day. Each year there are 300-400 musters held around the world.
And it is a celebration. While the ceremony is moving and reminds you of the lives lost, the day full of activities, including a 50 year reunion spot light, Camaraderie Barbecue, and campus tours shows off the life of the students, current and past.
At each Muster ceremony a speaker will be followed by the 'Roll Call For The Absent.' Names of those from that area who have died in the past year will be read, and as each name is called, a family member or friend will answer 'Here' to show that Aggie is present in spirit, and a candle will be lit.
Following the candle-lighting ceremony in Reed Arena, a rifle volley is fired and then Silver Taps is played.
During World War II, Aggies and other servicemen held Muster at Corregidor, the last American stronghold in the Pacific before the island was overrun by the Japanese. Only 12 Aggies survived the battle, the death march and ensuing POW camps.
Campus and Surrounding Area
The campus of Texas A&M University, also known as Aggieland, is situated in College Station, Texas. Aggieland is centrally located within 200 miles of three of the 10 largest cities in the United States and 75% of the Texas and Louisiana populations.
Bryan-College Station area population: 228,660
City Skyline and other places
Iconic Campus Building:
Kyle Field dominates the 5,200 acre campus, but some other building include:
The Systems Building welcomes visitors to our campus
Rudder Tower named after James Earl Rudder who led one of the most daring raids in the Normandy Invasion during WWII scaling a 100 foot cliff under enemy fire to destroy German gun batteries. He was also the 16th President of Texas A&M.
George Bush Presidential Library - Former President George Bush, the older one, has his presidential library on campus. It features tons of history on his presidency and an apartment for him to stay in upstairs when he is visiting.
Which is good, as he makes it to many A&M football games. He even led the team onto Kyle Field once.
The Academic Building stands behind the statue of Lawrence Sullivan Ross who turned down a third term as governor of Texas to be A&M's president. He actively fought for A&M, literally and figuratively. If you need a little luck, drop a penny on his statue.
• The O&M building was once the tallest building between Houston, Dallas and Austin. Many aggies take Astronomy simply so they get to hang out on the top floor.
Sbisa Dining Hall - once the largest dining hall in the world, A&M and Air Force spent much of the last century fighting over the rights to the who's was larger. Sbisa was named after Bernard Sbisa who only missed cooking one meal in 50 years for the Aggies. That breakfast was on Nov. 11, 1911 when the campus burned down, including the mess hall, kitchens and his own home. Lunch that day was served on time.
Local Dining:
If you come to College Station, don't you dare leave before spending some time at Northgate. Since 1930 (8 years before College Station was incorporated) this has been the traditional place for students to relax across the street from campus.
Northgate is College Stations premier bar district located along the Northwest edge of campus across University St. Most places are open until 2am and are open to 18+ with some 21+ exceptions.
Many Texas Country musicians got their start in Northgate, including Aggie legends Robert Earl Keen, Lyle Lovett, Dub Miller, and Roger Creager.
Some favorites include:
The Dixie Chicken - The Dixie Chicken, also known as The Chicken, has been "College Station's most famous watering hole since 1974," and is notable for its role in Texas A&M University tradition.
"Nationally known," the Dixie Chicken claims to serve the most beer per square foot of any bar in the United States.
The tradition of Ring Dunking started at the Chicken. If you do visit The Chicken, you should take the opportunity to learn Texas 42. It's essentially spades with dominos and a ton of fun.
Dry Bean Saloon - Shot bar next to The Chicken. Order favorites like the Angry Japanese Minnow Farmer.
The Corne Rooftop - It's been a while since I've been, but this place was always one of the favorites, mostly for the multiple floors, large bars, and rooftop atmosphere/ view.
Logan's - If you're 21+ and don't wants teens around this is one of the few options. Solid bar with giant 36 oz chuggers. Looks like $4 is what they'll cost you now, but I could swear there were nights they were $2.
O'bannon's Taphouse - If you're a beer connoisseur this is your spot. They have over 100 beers on tap, and a beer tour card. Filling with the 100+ beers takes weeks and give you mad street cred. And a drinking problem.
HOOKAH STATION!!! GATSBY'S!!! V-BAR!!! - The places Johnny famously frequents. The scooby doo shots were definitely in one of the latter two.
There are many more, but those will get you started. Watch the door for 5 minutes and you'll be able to tell exactly what kind of crowd frequents each.
Late Night Snacks
Antonio's - Incredibly diverse selection of Pizzas that are pretty perfect around 2am. The line will be out the door and down the street, so get there at 1:30 if you really want some. Worth the wait.
Fuego - Delicious alternative to Taco Cabana that popped up in the last few years. It's pricer, but the quality is head and shoulders above.
Hullabaloo - Diner a ways out east of town down wellborn.
Los Norteños - Downtown Bryan taco place. Tacos better described as burritos they barely fit on the already large plates.
Brunch / Lunch
Layne's - Heard of Raising Cane's? It's that, but with better sauce, actual Texas Toast, and better fries. Plus it's half the price.
Freebirds - Oh my god I wish they had these where I live. Chipotle is dogshit compared to a good bird. I've put back multiple Super Monsters in my time.
Koppe Bridge - Great Burgers. Enough Said.
La Bodega - Shakers and Queso is all you need, but the rest of their food is good too.
Cafe Eccel - Across from La Bodega. Solid food if you want to get a little fancier.
Christopher's - Kinda out of the way, but great if you want to get real fancy.
This is in no way an all inclusive list. I have no doubt many more recently in CS Aggies will fill it out further in the comments.
Random Trivia
A&M currently has the most current students attend each game. Season tickets cost $225 for just football, or $350 for all sports. A normal football game will feature 30,000+ students in the stands.
A&M won 79.8% of their games during the 1910's, including two undefeated, unscored on seasons.
Kyle field opened in 1904, making it the SEC's oldest field. After renovations, it will be the largest stadium in the SEC at 102,500 seats. Next year, during construction, it will hold 109,000 fans for the year.
On Nov. 24, 1921 the A&M vs. Texas game was broadcast in real time by morse code. This was the first play-by-play broadcast in history.
There is also plenty of rivalry between A&M and UTx off the field as well.
The opening scene of The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas is the Aggie football team beating the Longhorns and being rewarded with a visit to the women of the night.
Students that went to A&M for one year, then transferred elsewhere: T. Boone Pickens, Tennessee's General Robert Neyland, and the LA Clippers' DeAndre Jordan.
Lots of famous folks have come from A&M but the head of the list is professor Norman Borlaug. The 'Man who saved a Billion lives' is one of seven people to have won the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and the Congressional Gold Medal.
What Is and What is to Come
Here we go with year 2 in the SEC, and the Aggie faithful have a lot to be excited about.
Our schedule has 8 home games, including Alabama at Kyle Field.
On offense, our O-Line should be just as good as last year, if not better, despite losing Outland Trophy winner Luke Joeckel.
We return outstanding tackle Jake Matthews who will move to left tackle, and Cedric Ogbuehi will take right tackle which is his natural position. We also have Mike Matthews (Jake's brother) stepping in at center.
Germain Ifedi and Jarvis Harrison will fill out the guard positions. All of them have a lot of experience from last year.
At running back, we have size, speed, power and blocking. We have hungry backs that want to play. Possibly the most talented backfield in the NCAA this year.
To catch the ball we have tall, strong, fast receivers all over the place. Mike Evans returns after a stunning freshman year. Freshman Ricky Seals-Jones (RSJ) will join Cam Clear to give us a normal receiving package including three receivers over 6'4”. All of them can run, and they might all be lining up on the same side just to screw with defenses.
In a press conference last week, Coach Sumlin said RSJ is 6'5" and 245 lbs. They did a body fat analysis and realized that he is carring the minimum amount of fat the trainers will allow. That's all muscle.
And we have Johnny Manziel. No matter what you think you know about him, the kid can play football.
On defense, we have a lot of new faces, including some true freshmen that should be playing plenty this year. Of course, last year we thought our D would be terrible and it came out plenty okay, so there is hope!
Heisie, there isn't enough about me here! WTF?
I'm a statue, Johnny. This is all in your head.
More Information
Subreddit: /Aggies
Contributors: FarwellRob, Thrav, Theyus, laminak
And finally, my thanks to the many good Ags that have helped put this together.
There is a traditional saying at A&M: From the outside looking in, you can't understand it; and from the inside looking out, you can't explain it.
I've done my best to capture A&M and what we feel is special about Aggieland ... but I'm going to bet I've missed a few things.
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